I have an h-shifter in the works from an old gamepad. I just need to get off my lazy rear and finish it. Other than that, I've been using the seq. shifter for everything. Thus, I don't run SS cars very often. I never drive the BF1, the FOX I don't like, and I haven't looked into scripting to make the F08 use the paddles yet. It's too much trouble to switch it all manually, so I don't run F08 often either. Actually, it's quite dangerous for me to use the paddles because for 2 years, they've been my look left/right switches and I use them often, usually 2-4 quickly repeated looks while running down the straights. You could imagine what would happen at 160 mph when I give the left look a few quick hits being use to that just after I switch to paddle shifting for the F08. Yeah, 3 rapid downshifts at 160+ mph wouldn't be good....