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Too bad GT5 is planning to do the Guitar Hero Two thing:

You want the Caterham 7 -> $1.00
You want the GT-One Toyota -> $1.00

To have every car in the game (speculated) it would cost you over $1000. That's the last thing I heard, which is when I immediately stopped considering a PS3 or ever caring about the GT series again.

Not that I'm defending GT5,but didn't PD and Sony came to their senses and dropped that thing AFAIK?

And @theirishn00b: . That's all.

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To have every car in the game (speculated) it would cost you over $1000. That's the last thing I heard, which is when I immediately stopped considering a PS3 or ever caring about the GT series again.

They WERE considering this, but abandoned the idea. GT HD is now just a Prologue for GT5, which should have all the cars on the disc. Obviously, there will be extras after release which will probably be pay-for.

I'm about to get a 360, but I'm far more interested in the upcoming Project Gotham Racing 4 than Forza 2. This PGR4 shot almost made me wet my pants

I rented it yesterday...

F**KING KICKASS!!!

The customizing is awesome and its very realistic to say the least.

Online multiplayer is sweet too because you can bring your car from carrear to race other people.

The tuning is kinda like LFS though so its easy to do.

Its hard to get the best upgrades and stay in a certain class though! (cuz if you go over 400 in D class it goes to C class and you cannot race D class races with em).

Overall I need $110 atm..$60 for the game and $50 for 1 year of Xbox Live.

Quote from GruntOfAction :

Overall I need $110 atm..$60 for the game and $50 for 1 year of Xbox Live.

don't forget the $130 for the wheel.


yup. pgr4 looks like it will be a very cool arcade racer...dynamic weather conditions, and that dynamic weather will affect the traction available on the road surface. but pgr4 doesn't even have a slated release date (that i've seen). i'd expect late this year, to early next year.

Quote from glyphon :

don't forget the $130 for the wheel.


yup. pgr4 looks like it will be a very cool arcade racer...dynamic weather conditions, and that dynamic weather will affect the traction available on the road surface. but pgr4 doesn't even have a slated release date (that i've seen). i'd expect late this year, to early next year.

Pfft! Who needs racing wheels when I have my Neo Advanced $25 controller? lol.

Quote from glyphon :

this is made by simple shapes and gradient shapes.

:eek:

Its a shame it looks crap on the car, I never quite understand why people do stuff like that. It takes days to make and looks totally out of place on a racing car. I would make realistic looking racing skins that were complicated but looked good on the car.

yeah, i kind of agree. its really impressive skill using the tools available, but i tend to make the more race car like skins...
here is one of mine

Well hopefully I will get my copy a few days early, play.com are usually good when it comes to pre-orders.

just read this in a review of the game and thought it was interesting...

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When Microsoft took the game to the Sebring 12-hour race this year to show off, they let the Risi Competitzione racing drivers have a go to compare the experience of lapping the track in a virtual F430 GT2 car with the real thing. Mika Salo, Jamie Melo and Johnny Mowlem all found they were slower in the game than in real life, as they were suffering wheel spin in certain corners. It turned out that in real life, the teams keep their traction control activated to save the tires, and once they turned it on in the game they were able to match their actual lap times.

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Speaking of AI, the computer opponents in this game are much better than their ancestors in the original, and are so far ahead of the AI in the GT games it's not even funny. Forza Motorsport originally started out as an AI project in Microsoft's research lab in Cambridge, UK, and according to the developers, it learns as it plays, just like you.

Unlike the first game, the AI isn't malicious—its propensity to spin you out has gone, and I've even seen an AI car slide across the finish line sideways; a touch of flair I wouldn't have expected from a computer.

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just read this in a review of the game and thought it was interesting...

Pay them enough money and they'll say the same about Mario Kart

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/games/forza-motorsport-2.ars

read the review. it points out the strengths and the weakness of the title.

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The bad:

* Replays not up to GT standards
* Graphics don't have that last percent of polish
* Only 300 cars

Only 300!!??? We seem to get by fine with just 19

...as compared to 750 cars in GT4

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Only 300!!???

I missed that part, probably because it just sounds so ludicrous. How could 300 cars be a bad thing?

edit: unless they're all not worth driving in the first place.

Quote from BrandonAGr :

Only 300!!??? We seem to get by fine with just 19

19 FTW!!!

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...as compared to 750 cars in GT4

300 cars at the price of one game or 700 cars at $1 a car I'll take 300.

Only played the demo but it looks good. People complain that the graphics don't have the 'shine' but IMO forza 2 has too much shine, the cars look too shiney. Turning off all the driver aids make the cars fun, such as the tvr sagaris . I found it handles as you would expect, full power out of a corner and oversteer etc. I don't think it will ever be upto pc sim standards like lfs, but it is fun.

GT4 wasn't a la carte priced, and Sony/Polyphony gave up that idea for the next GT game because of the huge backlash that it received. the next GT game will be full-featured, but I expect that they will sell additional cars on top...i expect forza will do the same.

and, i've found when using the wheel, the physics are actually pretty close to pc sim standards. not quite at the LFS level, but better than others (*cough* GTR, GTL, etc *cough*).

But aren't the cars in Forza 2 more customizable than in GT? On the outside too?

Wouldn't really care if it was 300 or 750 cars though. There is plenty enough in either case I could imagine. I'm really tempted to buy X360, Forza 2 and upcoming GTA look promising titles among few others. Would mean that I couldn't afford updating my computer for 32 car grids for LFS though. Need to get a job.

I recently bought a 360, but I thankfully shouldn't need to upgrade my PC for a while. The reason I decided to go for the 360 was because of PGR4 and Forza 2. Both of them look stunning, and even if they turn out to be arcadey (isn't everything compared with LFS?) at least that style works better on consoles than PC.

Amazon has a good deal on right now where you can get the 360 with 20Gb HD, 2 wireless controllers, PGR3, Crackdown and Gears of War for £290 (or about 430 Euros if you like) if you add the right stuff to your basket

Im not sure if its from the rental place's thing they do to CDs ("CD Saver" thing which goes over the disc to protect from scratches) but I have found that Forza 2 locks up alot in the mainmenu a few times. Maybe its from my xbox getting a little hot but its not really overheating...I have it set up with a few PC fans outside of it circulating the air.

hmm...haven't noticed that problem. very well could be the cd-saver things causing read errors.

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hmm...haven't noticed that problem. very well could be the cd-saver things causing read errors.

Most likely because they said "It helps protect agienst copying the CD's info."
Guess it blocks the game itself too!

As I understand, that "buy every-car-for-1€" feature will only be in GT HD or its successor, but not in GT5.
On GTPlanet it was stated somewhere that there will be some sort of graphics demo (like GT4 Prologue) before final GT5

Quote from ACCAkut :

On GTPlanet it was stated somewhere that there will be some sort of graphics demo (like GT4 Prologue) before final GT5

I thought GT HD was the GT4 Prolouge type game to GT5.

Back OT: Should be getting this jsut after release! I've been re-playing the first one, brushing up on my console racing skills and paint customisations.