http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6738309.stm
What next? Ban the Sound of Music as it has scenes in a church ?!?!?!?!
What next? Ban the Sound of Music as it has scenes in a church ?!?!?!?!
Church of England versus common sense - Round, erm, I've lost count
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Church of England versus common sense - Round, erm, I've lost count
Well, I kind of see their point. I am not strongly religious so I do not have a problem with a bloodbath within a church especially on a computer game but I can see how this would upset the church who have very strong religious beliefs. They also see it as disrespectfully to the religion.
I think its over the top but I can see where they are coming from. I am sure Buddhists or Muslims would say the same if there was a game with bloods and guts being spilled within their sacred temples and shrines.
I think its over the top but I can see where they are coming from. I am sure Buddhists or Muslims would say the same if there was a game with bloods and guts being spilled within their sacred temples and shrines.
Battlefield 2 invites you to go shoot foreign people in the middle east and China. Is this any different?
Disappointing that there aren't any BF2 maps based in the continental USA.
Disappointing that there aren't any BF2 maps based in the continental USA.
they are killing aliens...... bugs
i guess the church would prefer to see a game made about the beautiful things they did during the inquisition time.
hypocrites, all they want is money.
i guess the church would prefer to see a game made about the beautiful things they did during the inquisition time.
hypocrites, all they want is money.
Exactly my point. Games like this involve shooting things blowing stuff up, yet they don't moan about BF
Whilst I'm not opposed to a game set in a church I think it's a bit stupid to rip into the church for being opposed to them, especially if you base it on a place with a gun crime issue
Wow, I never thought they'd do that.
Sorry - I haven't really paid attention to all the add-ons they've been putting out.
Ironically there ARE "Christian" BF2 servers, called "GOD Gaming" (i think). They refuse to play a map called "Road To Jalalabad" because it has a Mosque in it (!) and they ban people for "Offensive" names - ie a bloke joins with the name "Devils Hand" and is kicked - someone asks why he was kicked, as he was doing a good job against the enemy, and he was Kicked - in BF2 an admin can type a reason, his was "Following in the way of the Devils Hand"
I've seen some pretty retarded Christians before (and some really quite clever ones, for balance's sake!) but that takes the biscuit - it's perfectly acceptable to ignore "Love thy neighbour" and take pleasure in killing the enemy, but to play on a map with a Mosque is just too far - are they saying that irl they would rather than kill someone than live near a Mosque?!
@Jakg - are you sure they're not avoiding the map with a mosque because they feel it's disrespectful/don't wish to be associated with a religious war?
Having said that there are some extremely retarded Christian fundamentalists around, but that can be said of just about any religion, even LFS has mindless extremists who go bashing anybody who believes in a different race sim having any possible merit against the mighty LFS.
Having said that there are some extremely retarded Christian fundamentalists around, but that can be said of just about any religion, even LFS has mindless extremists who go bashing anybody who believes in a different race sim having any possible merit against the mighty LFS.
Hmmm... As an American I ask this:
Why don't the Church sue them over intellectual rights or something?
After all, If I was to start printing T-shirts with their cathedral all over them, they could sue me if I didn't have their permission.
Also, don't race games have to pay some sort if licensing fee to use real cars and tracks?
And since the big game companies use apparently use those laws as a competitive edge against the little guys, shouldn't they be allowed to fall into the pit they helped dig?
Why don't the Church sue them over intellectual rights or something?
After all, If I was to start printing T-shirts with their cathedral all over them, they could sue me if I didn't have their permission.
Also, don't race games have to pay some sort if licensing fee to use real cars and tracks?
And since the big game companies use apparently use those laws as a competitive edge against the little guys, shouldn't they be allowed to fall into the pit they helped dig?
Maybe I'm a bit clueless, but aren't fundamentalists usually quite comfortable with the notion of religious wars?
@Kev,
Really, BF2 needed those extra American maps for balancing purposes. I never saw BF2 as a 'We're the Americans, lets go kick some foreign butt' type game. People are switching sides constantly, it's just a roleplay.
From what Jakg said I saw nothing that seemed to say they were fundamentalists just a group of people with a common interest playing a computer game who didn't like people who used usernames they found offensive.
I don't know who these people are (actually that term popped into my head from your post I think) but they atleast sound quite rigid, dogmatic, fundamentalist.
If they avoid playing around mosques, then I imagine they'll avoid playing around churches too. Which leaves only the Chinese maps. I guess they're just happier killing communists.
Or maybe they're playing as communists (In China) :hide:
If they avoid playing around mosques, then I imagine they'll avoid playing around churches too. Which leaves only the Chinese maps. I guess they're just happier killing communists.
Or maybe they're playing as communists (In China) :hide:
It's not that, it's the fact that the game involves the use of guns and blowing things up. A thing that Manchester (i think its there lol) has a problem with is gun crime and violent past. They are appauled at the fact the company used the Church as the forefront of this particular map, and even worse it included the interior of the church which outraged them more.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6758381.stm
Sony have apologied - and the BBC should be next for their sensasionalised reports.
Sony have apologied - and the BBC should be next for their sensasionalised reports.
It is funny how we must bow down to some groups beliefs while they don't need to bow down our beliefs
This is a fairly valid point.
I don't see the point. It's a work of fiction. Should we burn all the copies of the da vinci code? The church doesn't like it either, so we better all just stop thinking for ourselves and do what they say.
It's a lot of crap is what it is. Plenty of games have scenes inside churches and nobody has bothered before. It wasn't about the violence, it was specific to that church. Games like the Godfather have real life churches in them (although admittedly I can't say how accurately modelled they are), yet I don't remember anyone bitching about that.
And we know that all Sony will do is change the design of the church to resemble the real one a bit less. Yet that's enough to stop them complaining about violence and holy buildings? Not a lot of conviction behind their argument then, huh?
I get very suspicious of anyone getting so arsey about trivial stuff. I get the impression it's all a publicity stunt. Maybe they want the church to attract more visitors because it needs repairs or something.
I would go into the whole argument that says 'God' gave us free will, therefor Sony designing the church that way was up to Him, but I don't want to end up burning at the stake or something.
And we know that all Sony will do is change the design of the church to resemble the real one a bit less. Yet that's enough to stop them complaining about violence and holy buildings? Not a lot of conviction behind their argument then, huh?
I get very suspicious of anyone getting so arsey about trivial stuff. I get the impression it's all a publicity stunt. Maybe they want the church to attract more visitors because it needs repairs or something.
I would go into the whole argument that says 'God' gave us free will, therefor Sony designing the church that way was up to Him, but I don't want to end up burning at the stake or something.
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