i am searching for a tool, that tells the admin at a certain point in time, which car is the first car that is at least one lap down compared to the leaders. (lucky dog) it also needs to work on autocross tracks.
best would be if the admin can write something like: /dog and then it tells him which car or username it is.
i am not able to program it so maybe some of you have the time or want to practice their skills.
NASCAR brought in the rule that when a caution (yellow flag) comes out, the first guy who is a lap down, gets to pass the leaders under yellow and get back on the lead lap. It was brought in when NASCAR banned racing to the start/finish line when a yellow came out. Previously, when a yellow came out, you could still race and pass others until you crossed the start line when you had to slow down.
A very near miss of two cars at super high speed brought this on (a guy had spun on the front straight, was stationary, yellows came out, cars still racing to the line, one guy pulled out of a draft to try and pass before the line and almost smacked head on into the stationary car - was a matter of "that" much). Now, as soon as yellow flags are displayed, racing is suspended immediately (no passing, slow down) and the "lucky dog" gets a lap back for free.
yep, in nascar it is because of the reasons you have mentioned above.
however in nascar the crashed out cars or the cars that cause a Caution are not allowed to get the lucky dog pass. which is different in lfscar
i want to have it in lfscar because of other reasons: if a driver gets crashed out by an other car on purpose or whatever reason, he might lose a lap in the beginning of a race. the crasher will get a penalty after the race, ok, but what does the crashed one get? nothing. so this is the approach to bring that guy back into the race giving him the lucky dog pass being able to be again with the leaders in the same lap.
well, im also racing a lot on the oval, often with a bunch of noobs.
i think that there are even more good reasons to use the lucky dog rule (like competition for the no-more-in-lead-lap-dudes).
i would be really glad to see this rule in LFS, as it happens quite often on the oval that you get shot off and need to go to pits.
The drivers on the lead lap rarely "raced to the line". Even though it was allowed, there was a "gentleman's agreement" that they did not do that. Where the "lucky dog" rule comes from is the cars that were down a lap would race and try to beat the lead car to the line so he would then be on the lead lap.
If you were in the lead for instance, and your teammate was right behind you, but a lap down, you would slow up so that he would reach the line first, thus you would be allowing him to have his lap back.
On the other side, if you are leading and the 2nd place in points was the lap down car, you would more than likely race him back to the line to keep him a lap down.
What sometimes happened was you in the lead would be trying to allow your teammate to gain his lap back, while the 2nd place car wouldn't want him to get back, so the 2nd place would pass the lead car to race the lap down car, then allow the lead to have his place back after the line. That was part of the gentleman's agreement. I think this is what happened in the situation that caused the change of "racing to the line". Dale Jarret was the one spun and stationary facing the wrong way when a lap down car pulled out to race to the line and almost hit head on (or perhaps Dale was sideways?) at something probably like 160 mph. There was a similar, but not as drastic incident the race before that one as well that got NASCAR started talking about it. After Dale's near miss, it was promptly changed.
After the change, they instituted the "lucky dog" rule that the first car a lap down would move to the tail end of the lead lap because he could no longer try to gain his lap back racing back to the line. I agree, an extremely stupid rule. At least they should have put the "lucky dog" in front of the lead car on restart so he had to race from the green flag to keep his lead lap status.
It must be noted that NASCAR the sanctioning league is all about money, and the money all comes from the mainstream public. This ridiculous rule is not for the racing or racing fans, but for creating more action by allowing Jimmy Johnson, Dale Jr., Tony Stewart, etc to easily gain their laps back so that they may move up easier and fight towards the end of the race. The true racing fan's entertainment is watching the racing, where NASCAR only wants viewership of the fan wannabe's so that they will stay to watch the "action" even though the real action is destroyed by allowing the Goldenboys every chance to win. It's classic American quantity over quality. Appeal to the masses to make more money.
In F1 there have a similar rule. Instead of coming out in front of the leaders and waving everyone else on, the SC comes out regardless. If it comes out and there are an number of lapped cars in front of the leader, they get their laps back to stop the leaders having cars in their way when the safety car goes back in.
If I am understanding you correctly (I'm not an F1 fan), this is also what NASCAR does. If you are getting ready to be lapped, but are still ahead of the leader (thus still on the lead lap), then you get to pass the safety car (Pace car in NASCAR) and move up to the tail of the lead pack.
The only situation that occurs that the race will continue with cars in front of the leaders is if the leaders pit, but lapped cars stay out and not pit. Then they will have gotten their lap back by passing the leaders when the leaders pit, but they don't get to pass the pace car. They start in the front just in front of the lead pack. They must race to stay on the lead lap, and if another caution comes, they come around.
I am not 100 % sure, because there was so much motorsport last weekend, but wasnt it in the dtm that they implemented the lucky dog rule because of the desaster at eurospeedway lausitz. I think their system is, they want to have the first 10 cars in actual standings in correct order behind the safety car. So every lapped car between those 10 cars can pass the safety car and lap themselves back. Or did i just dream when i was hanging tired in my armchair!?
i like the idea of having the grid in the correct order... the problem in lfs is, we don't have a system that checks this and gives a guide for the drivers in LFS.
in lfscar, it is a bit different with the lapped cars and the leaders go to pit.
we stay out the first lap with pits only open for wrecks. when the pacecar is in front of the leader, the pits are open for everyone. if the leaders pit in, and there is a lapper in the front of the pack, then right behind of the pacecar when the leaders pit in, he is allowed to pass the pacecar as well. but this has nothing todo with lucky dog rule in lfscar. lucky dog is still the first car that is a lap down in the rankings. just to make it easy. drivers have enough problems to follow all rules during a Caution at the moment...
