Yes, Paulien00dles is a retard who cant drive RWD worth a sh!t so whats new
Im just going to insist on you and bagbag doing all the driving from now on, dont care what the circumstances are, your both doing all the MoE races including the 24hr race alone!
Get rid of the final and have 2 races both the same length worth the same amount of positions and there you go, sorted.
On the reversed thing, reversing a full grid is crazy, often the spread in times between the winner of a race and the person in last would be seconds off the pace, imagine the carnage at everybody trying to overtake the car infront of them.
Top 8 however, or top 10, (Maybe even half the size of the grid, still a bit much probarly) reversed gives alot more than no change in grid. Seriously, if you are doing 2 or even 3 races, who wants to see the same guy have another trouble free race hotlapping in the lead, infact, how do you think he feels? Would be like Kimi at Melbourne, falling asleep damnit!!
Option 1
Qualifying 20mins
Race 1 Qualifying positions (10laps)
Race 2 Full reverse Grid (10lap)
Race 3 points from 1 + 2 determine the grid for race 3 (15laps
All points count
Option 2 Qualifying 20mins
Race 1 Qualfying Positions
Race 2 Reverse top 8
I like option 2 for a number of reasons, main ones were in my previous post.
But another thing is time, your asking 60 odd people to do 4 sessions of racing on a Saturday night? I know they are relatively short, but can anyone point out a race last season when things went to plan? ie we never ran over any time limit like a HALF hour break inbetween 2 sessions?
With the reversed thing, I really think the highest you can go is half however many cars are on the grid reversed, maybe have some sort of vote on it?
#2 I think this calls for a test, how's about a full server of As nat GTR's, a few races run to determine who should be upfront and who should be at the rear, then reverse the grid.
Seriously, going for a full grid reverse is just plain stupid and maybe to put it into terms of work for you, can you imagine how many complains you would need to handle?
I like them both. Option 2 is simpler causing less confusion among the drivers but Option 1 will give you better drivers in div 1 I think. Sure it sucks to get stuck behind someone, but thats racing and a good racer can get by a slower car fairly easy.
Granted this is conditional that the drivers racing actually know how to handle T1.. I think it might just be easier to use Option 2. Reversing the the top 8 would work out good too. I think most people by now can handle it, but there is always that one driver or two...
Its one thing to get pass *a* slower car fairly easy, but when the (ex)leader is expected to get past 2nd, 3rd, 4th and so on before actually getting to the slower cars, you also have a high probability of one of the slower cars creating an accident which could easily create problems for the faster people relegated to the back of the track. Obviously similar could happen in the first race if a faster person makes a mistake costing a slower driver, but that guy is back there on merit, not because of some silly game to entertain people.
You also get a really big bottleneck because of it, the slower drivers are at the front, the faster at the back, and they all effectively meet in the middle because the slow-coach mobile chicanes are holding people up. Anyone that had a significantly bad race and should have been in the top half and ended up right near the bottom then gets promoted to the front end and after passing say 8 cars is home free while the people who are just as fast as them are still 10+ cars behind trying to work their way through the 'slower than them' pack.
Every attempted move has the potential to go wrong, and with that and the bottlenecking and tightly packed cars theres a very high probability of seeing some of the top cars at the back losing a whole heap of places and possibly a load of damage to boot.
Arrow, I really dont see the reason for your determination for this reversed full grid, you've stated that you didnt want result ballast because you wanted the fastest drivers to be able to win, and yet its clear as black and white that expecting the fastest driver to come through 31 other cars in a short timeframe (10 laps according to an earlier post!!!!) is just stupid, especially if the winner of the BS 2nd race gets the same points as the winner of the 1st race.
If its unfair for the teams in 9th & 10th and 1st & 2nd, exactly how does it become fair by telling the 1st place guy 'your not starting 8th, your starting 32nd, 8th wouldnt be very fair would it', cos im pretty sure 2nd isnt very fair, they just came 1st afterall why are they being penalised for being fastest anyway?? its all in the name of 'Entertainment' apparently.
It seems that by 'entertainment' it means use the slower guys as mobile chicanes to provide a bit of fun, you want the fast guys to make things interesting by overtaking slower people, surely thats not entertaining, we can see that sort of action we'd all head to demo servers for our racing kicks, surely the entertainment comes from people racing others they're a match for, and thats why i think ballast which is also used in racing series. Theres a reason so few series IRL do reversed grids or other tricks to fake the entertainment value of the races, and mainly its because the idea of racing isnt to handycap and punish people because they're doing well.
I really dont see what benefit full grid reversal has, i mean it was something invented to entertain paying customers who got tired of watching sh!t racing, dumb things down for the fans who cant appreciate what racing actually is and needed to be entertained by cars being side by side because gate receipts were dropping. Its not done to prove anything from a racing pov, its a bums on seats trick. Drivers dont like it, but the dumb fans who dont seem to understand the concept of racing seem to think its fantastic, probably the same set of people that find Nascar to be the premier racing series
It'd be better off being called the 'lucky dip' round, we should all just do 1 90min race and then for the 2nd set of results just draw straws and save ourselves the messing about and get just as consistant results.
I MSN'd Arrow about this the other week, the original idea of having multiple race rounds and endurance rounds seems to have vanished in favour of the previous 1 race for 100min which is pretty much a done race after the opening 30min.
Still, hopefully it will be entertaining eitherway.
I think most people by now can handle it, but there is always that one driver or two...
