Good afternoon racers. It's just after the controversial Hungarian GP qualifying, and here I am to add more controversy to your lives, with the third episode of The Blame Game!
You can find today's episode here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr2fkQTMays
The Homepage for TBG here: http://batracer.tripod.com/theblamegame

In this episode we have a small special extra feature which may provide more insight into the accident

Take your time voting, express your opinion, but please follow these two simple rules:

DO NOT name particular drivers when making your point; if you recognise a driver in the crash, do not mention the driver's name.
DO NOT act aggressively to other members who voice a different opinion; we all know how heated accident debates get in game so let's not bring it onto the forum as well.

I would say driver B was at fault, The said driver was way offline to take the corner at that speed, thus ending in a domino effect after tagging the rear end causing the final flip,

This is the first time ive watched the blame game and i must say its very interesting, great work on the movie

Where did you find the video?

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Thats the old one as the date suggests.

Quote from FOGlegsy :

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No, sorry that's an old episode. I posted the thread too early, and the poll isn't in place yet!
Edit: Now it is.

Ohh bugger
sorry its my first time watching the movies and i didnt read the heading, is it the same vid?

EDIT:- Too slow ok new vid then

Right now ive seen the new one ,
personally i say driver B, driver A&B were side by side going into the corner, driver A was holding a nice tight line to run 2 wheels over the curbing when driver B turned into him, Once driver A took the hit he was sent into the barrier causing the accident,

I said B, because he must have been aware that car A was on his left side, and if he had looked before turning he would have seen A was slightly ahead.
My choice was further helped by the fact driver B rejoined the race into a crowd of other drivers, clipping another one of them in the process and showing that he doesn't use his look left/right buttons at all.

Neither did anything particularly wrong imho. They managed to get pretty far side by side but then the XRG spun. I voted for racing incident. It should be pretty interesting to see what the poll result will end up. Looks like a tough one to call.

The dialog was great btw.

Looks like driver B didn't even look at his mirrors and turned right into the XFG at the corner, when the xfg was a bit ahead of the xrg.

Driver B's fault entirely. He didn't look at his/her mirrors, didn't look left or right, and he/she doesn't even brake at the right braking point! He admitted that he braked at the wrong time(in his/her own words)
And lemme guess, this was on a CTRA server?

Lag... Yes, B turned into A when he already fell back due to the XRG's weight, but both would have made the corners if it weren't for LfS' collision detection which shot them apart...

I would say A actually :/
He sees that B is closing door, but still he just goes full speed for the room that isnt there.

Quote from bbman :

Lag... Yes, B turned into A when he already fell back due to the XRG's weight, but both would have made the corners if it weren't for LfS' collision detection which shot them apart...

To be honest, after watching this crash at least 50 times when making this video, I'm pretty sure the collision was quite accurate. Driver B carried more speed into the second part of the corner and pushed A aside, causing himself to spin too. I may be wrong though.

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I would say A actually :/
He sees that B is closing door, but still he just goes full speed for the room that isnt there.

The door is wide open when A makes the move.

Driver B only closes the door when A has already entered.

Both - Had the XRG driver of LOOKED (sometimes it seems like i'm the only person in the world that ever does...) he would of seen the XFG going down the inside - but he didn't, and thus went into a VERY tight corner rubbing against the wall. The XFG WAS ahead, so he shouldn't of - but then on the next apex the XFG driver gives nowhere near enough room, and because they're rubbing on the exit, as the XRG driver tries to get his foot down early he spins, knocking the other car in the process. Of course, the fact he just rejoined into traffic and started swearing makes him slightly more to blame in my book...

PS - Nice and proffesional there "Mr. Astra", great work!

A did carry momentum and did not just brake late. The chicane was done with a bit of touching and then B just lost control. Maybe lag was a factor? I've seen people loose it like that when you go up beside them, but never understood how they couldn't handle it.

Neither - Just a racing incident/too hard to tell

Quote from zeugnimod :

The door is wide open when A makes the move.

Driver B only closes the door when A has already entered.

Still I think that driver A braked too late, and therfor have to take some blame that it whent to hell.

lol it's always driver B
I overtook ppl few times there like driver A did ^^
Driver B just power out to early, and didn't release throttle after he clearly sow that he is going to hit into A, and also he clipped some wall on inside. So it's clearly his fault. We can't say it's lag, if it's lag then driver A would fly away

btw. driver B please take a note that you comes down as idiot here, don't blame driver A cuz you spun, maybe you spun cuz you're naab
- I liked that conversation on end ^^

id say a racing incident, driver A saw a gap, he filled it, driver B thaught that driver A had backed off and took the corner...
thats what i think

Quote from anbiddulph :

id say a racing incident, driver A saw a gap, he filled it, driver B thaught that driver A had backed off and took the corner...
thats what i think

Hehe, it of course is an racing accident, but we like to flame so therfor we have to find one to blame on

Driver B for sure, he blocked driver A in a chicane...

Quote from Spangler_CZE :

Driver B for sure, he blocked driver A in a chicane...

race accident... the xrg make a mistake when hit the wall, go in oversteer and don't controlled it... with a good drift it can pass the xfg in the next corner

some strange mix between b and lag
but b is a twat for swearing and rejoining without looking so he gets my vote ... again