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The Blame Game - Episode 3
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Poll : Who/What is to blame?

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Driver B
66
Neither - Just a racing incident/too hard to tell
16
Driver A
11
Both of them
11
Lag
1
Race incident.

A had enough overlap, but B is still entitled to defend a bit, and giving room is not easy there (as driver A would have been aware). The spin was minor.

The rejoining was the worse bit, and B should have been penalised for that, rather than the racing just beforehand.
Quote from tristancliffe :A had enough overlap, but B is still entitled to defend a bit, and giving room is not easy there (as driver A would have been aware). The spin was minor.

well bs defense was turning in on a hard and pushing a into the wall whereas a managed to give him plenty room on the right hander
not what youd consider a fair defensive move
B to blame. He tried to turn in when he shouldn't have done. If he'd done the same as an attacking move around the outside it would be an open and shut case.
in my opinion , both of them .................and by the way, cool ideea to make this series
Driver B was clearly the cause of the accident. Driver A had the right of way to be ahead in that turn since he was ahead of Driver B while comming into the turn.

Unfortunate for Driver B, he probably didn't see Driver A comming up beside him and had to put up with losing a few spots.
That's what happens when you only have a few inches vision.
driver B was clearly out of shape going into those turns Driver A took full advantage ofit got the inside line and was as far as i can tell from the video INFRONT, driver B closed the door or in my opinion tried slamming driver A against the wall
driver B had totally the fault!
Driver A was with a XFG and that turn's braking point is very different for the 2 cars. Driver A (XFG) braked in he's braking point, aswell as driver B did.. but driver B decided to close the door for some reason. Both of drivers would of pass there without any problem, if driver B let driver A pass or if he didn't close the door that much..
Driver B, I was thinking racing incident at first but Driver B's attutude afterwards leads me to believe that he is an idiot. I have seen so many passes into that section, in more powerful cars and harder to drive cars, the fact Driver B thinks you can't pass there leads me to believe he saw Driver A and just turned in on him.

So Driver B gets my vote, unsporting and ignorent driving, if he had backed out and got a better exit he could probably have got back past Driver A.
Close one, but I'm voting B. For the simple reason that after the accident he was over, he did a burnout straight into 3 other cars that were racing.
Yes but you can judge a persons actions based on their attitude and what they do after the incident. If someone says 'you can't overtake there' that usually means 'I didn't know you could overtake there, so I crashed into you' and if someone hits several cars while recovering that shows a lack of track awareness.
Driver B, no question about it. Driver A took the inside line and he had it, but driver B turned into driver A, and from the looks of it, driver B knew that A was there. If driver B would've held his own line, that pass should have been clean and fair. But not only did he almost take out driver A, after the incident he spun around just after the chicane, hitting another car. Not so harsh, and nothing that seemed to cause alot of damage, but it still seems as he has a huge lack of understanding the situation and how to solve it in the best way. It doesn't work to just spin around, without watching mirrors/minimap first. Clearly he didn't check the minimap, nor the mirrors (I can understand the mirrors though, they wouldn't have helped out much in that position). Either that or he did check the minimap but just didn't give a dime about the cars coming in. In this case we can't do anything but speculate.

The conversation afterwards makes driver B look very childish. There is room for two cars in that chicane, if both cars are holding their lines. Of course only one car fits in that chicane when driver B did what he did. Duh.

So, conclusion: Driver B is held responsible, imo.
if you want to blame one, then B because A outbraked him in the first turn but B did not back off to safely pass the passage. you also can blame B for rejoining the race after his spin and hitting a passing car. i think this behavior is more to blame then the crash itself.

BUT

i voted it as a racing accident just because it was a tight fight for second position, both of them could have backed off in a long distance race. They had the same speed, A was on a bit a better line though and the spin out is some kind of random, they could be both spun out as well or neither of them. so its a racing accident.

however, greate pass of A!
Not really an accident to be honest. B just lost control on the exit. He acted like an idiot on rejoining and chat though. Voted racing incident.
I said B. and BTw, how do you change the skins so they have A and B on them?

EDIT: I sent some .MPRs to you Mp3 Astra.
Quote from Zachary Zoomy :I said B. and BTw, how do you change the skins so they have A and B on them?

EDIT: I sent some .MPRs to you Mp3 Astra.

If you really want to know, I can explain it to you; but it will take a long time to do so! I mean it takes me about 20 minutes to get both of the cars to look like that. It's one of the most frustrating parts of making The Blame Game!
B should have backed off in a tight spot like that.
Every point of track is a overtaking point...and A made it clear that he's already upfront...
Quote from Zachary Zoomy : how do you change the skins so they have A and B on them?

In options menu there is a list of skins, and if you know what skins those are, you can replace them in one of the skins folder with "car A" or whatever you want.

Let me give a better example.

You have a replay, the skin is XR_skin1, it is red.
You look for the location of that skin, make a yellow file, and replace XR_skin1 (red version) with your yellow version, and name it XR_skin1, and when you watch the replay, the skin will no longer be red, but yellow, the one you replaced it with.
I'm not sure that A would have made the 1st corner if B hadn't been there for him to lean on. A puts on a fair bit of lock, but the car looks to be understeering until B hits him.

B on the other hand turns into the corner smoothly, then has to fight the weight of A that's trying to push him wide after they make contact.

A was also going faster, is off-line and late-braking. Coupled with the fact that it's a stupid place to try overtaking and I can understand why B was upset about it.

It's much easier doing this with the throttle and steering inputs on you know.
Quote from XCNuse :In options menu there is a list of skins, and if you know what skins those are, you can replace them in one of the skins folder with "car A" or whatever you want.

Let me give a better example.

You have a replay, the skin is XR_skin1, it is red.
You look for the location of that skin, make a yellow file, and replace XR_skin1 (red version) with your yellow version, and name it XR_skin1, and when you watch the replay, the skin will no longer be red, but yellow, the one you replaced it with.

It's nearly that simple (the way I do it). Just an extra step is that you have to convert the new skin you have made into .dds format. You do this by putting it in the skins folder and opening LFS. Then you rename the file to the one that you want to replace and put it in the skins_x folder.

I don't currently know how to replace non-custom skins (such as solid colour or standard LFS skins).

Quote from Christofire :I'm not sure that A would have made the 1st corner if B hadn't been there for him to lean on. A puts on a fair bit of lock, but the car looks to be understeering until B hits him.

B on the other hand turns into the corner smoothly, then has to fight the weight of A that's trying to push him wide after they make contact.

A was also going faster, is off-line and late-braking. Coupled with the fact that it's a stupid place to try overtaking and I can understand why B was upset about it.

It's much easier doing this with the throttle and steering inputs on you know.

I don't know how to turn on throttle input without turning on the rest of the HUD
Driver B is a muppet, total lack of situational awareness.
Exactly. B just wasn't aware, got mad, tried to retaliate and took himself out, then over-reacted with the name calling.
Well after tonights ILFSC race you're gona have enough blame game footage for the rest of the year!
Quote from anttt69 :Well after tonights ILFSC race you're gona have enough blame game footage for the rest of the year!

Oooh I'd like to see that! I'm like an accident eater
When I'm driving and I see an accident or hear people shouting at each other via chat, I think to myself "blame game time"! Not that I wish people to have accidents.
Quote from Mp3 Astra :Not that I wish people to have accidents.

Only when they are in a position ahead of you!

The Blame Game - Episode 3
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