So, if you go to zoo and you see a monkey behind bars, monkey see you behind bars, which one is then really behind the bars?
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Depends which way the bars are facing 
In what do you base this ?
JohnUK has bit better approach to problem in hand, but solution is not that
assuming that the universe is in fact finite and the closest thing to spherical surfaces that youll find in 4d space my cage is still a lot larger than his
It is correct if there would be a cage, is there?
you quite clearly stated that the monkey is inside a closed orientable surface
Did I?
Or did you just assume that monkey is inside closed orientable surface?
most monkeys behind bars in zoos are
obviously the question would be whos the monkey but still
obviously the question would be whos the monkey but still
2 perspectives= both behind bars
ROFL!
(sorry for the useless post, but that was awfully humorous)
time for a famous saying: Two men look through prison bars , one see's mudd the other sees stars... or in your case one sees a spotty tourist through through the cage bars and the other sees food
Both are behind bars. 
Neither are behind bars. Just the bars are in front of them.
i thiank bobz got it therae. Monkays in captevity are badd Free thme
Ignore him...He OD'ed on painkillers...
JTbo, that post sounds an awful lot like something AtomAnt would post...
You are what you think 
Just like the bars (if we assume it's a cage) confine the monkey in the cage, they also confine me outside the cage.
There are no bars.
Hmm
there's plenty of bars here in Aus 
at least one in every town Bars in Aussieland, like Starbucks in North America, one every 20 feet?
No, then it would be like:
"Go get your zoo, check out your monkey. See the deal with the bars? Is there?
The crow flies at midnight BTW. And I don't mean monkey poop."
I would say that since the monkey and I are both in the same universe that neither is truly caged. Now if the monkey was somehow beyond the event horizon of a Black Hole without being crushed into the singularity I would say the monkey is caged. But then you could argue that just because the monkey is in a different universe that is smaller, does that mean he is caged?
My answer is that we are all ultimately caged inside our own and the universes inevitable destruction, so nobody should really give a **** about Zoo's or bars.
My answer is that we are all ultimately caged inside our own and the universes inevitable destruction, so nobody should really give a **** about Zoo's or bars.
Oh ffs, how many more random language posts did I made last night
Yes, neither one is behind the bars, there is no cage, there is just few metal bars lying on ground
POV is how you did look this problem, it had nothing to do with a question
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POV is how you did look this problem, it had nothing to do with a question
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