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Just follow the advice in the thread and give up the ridiculous overclocking attempts. If you break your laptop you won't get to play LFS at ALL!

Also, what do you think the chances of getting a new desktop from your parents will be if you break the laptop you already have through pure stupidity?
Quote from harjun :well Overclocked it does 50-55 fps...and not overclocked does about...20-30

but 2XAA and 2XAF it does 70 in full grid....and 40 not overclocked

Proof please.....in game screenshots will do nicely.

I simply don't believe a word of it.

You would get on a lot better here if you didn't keep making stuff up.
Every time you've been asked for proof about something you haven't been able to provide it.
No one is going to bother wasting their time trying to help you if you carry on like this.
PLEASE!!@!

Go buy a Mac, you can't overclock those, and you'd haffto be a moron to fry one.

For the love of god, and our sanity, get a frikkin iMac, so then we don't haffto listen to your "zomg, OC iMac plz!" threads, because there's 1 answer. You can't, because there are no tools that work with the iMac's motherboard, nor is there a BIOS.

People, call me a Mac fanboy, I don't care, I'm just trying to save mine, and everyone elses sanity, from him asking inane questions about overclocking things that shouldn't be overclocked, it's just stupid Harjun, and you're a waste of time with this "OC MY LAPTOP" bullshit.
#29 - Jakg
Quote from The General Lee :Please don't tell me this is the same Laptop that everyone told you not to overclock then laughed at you when you did and lied about it?

ROFL





Just to set some things straight here - on Harjun's laptop it's got an integrated graphics solution, which is holding his FPS back, so OC'ing the CPU will do nothing anyway.

I'm an overclock whore, i had a old Single Core AMD 3700 - 2.2 GHz. When i tweaked the memory (ie 40% overclock) and overclocked the CPU to 3.07 GHz (40% overclock on that, too) in SuperPi (A CPU benchmarking tool - it will show a CPU improvement far more noticeably than anything else will) and it went from 38 seconds at stock down to 27 when overclocked - that's a 40% improvement, which when you include the extra memory bandwidth and closing some extra processes.

Now Harjun overclocked by 25% and got a 75% FPS improvement. He also overclocked by 25% with no knowledge of dividers on crappy laptop RAM - my Corsair ValueRAM topped out at a 10% OC like most value ram, and as the FSB is linked to the CPU and the memory i had to set up a divider - yet he hasn't. I also had to up the vCore (even if by a little), however this is a mobile chip. Then i'm being told that this thing loads at 50°, which is odd as notebooks run notoriously hot, and i can't see overclocking helping.

I'm not buying it.
First off, Jakg I don't know what you are on, but taking off a heatsink and re-applying thermal paste is perfectly normal and 'ok'. All those 'bubbles' from the first pics are the grease from the first time he took it off.

Besides, even if it is a laptop, that is fine too. I normally replaced the grease on my old laptop every 3 months, and it would give me a 10-15C decrease in max temperature each time while gaming. But whatever he is doing with this heatsink... mehhhhh.

If done right, a smart person would take off the paste on both the heatsink and cpu contacts and make sure no residue is left over. Then reapply a small portion in the very middle and re-mount the heatsink. You only need a little bit, and the grease will spread when you re-mount the heatsink, AND the grease will spread when heat dissipates after a week or two of normal use. I am sure we all learned how glue spreads underneath paper when we were kids, yes? :doh:

To be honest, I would go through the steps of applying the new grease, and then run the computer at normal specs. Then once temps seem to be fairly good, try overclocking, or whatever it is that gets you soiled....

If the PC continues to get hot, don't consider a new heatsink, consider looking at your fan/case solution, and see if it is even getting ample cooling overall.
#31 - Jakg
Quote from Tweaker :First off, Jakg I don't know what you are on, but taking off a heatsink and re-applying thermal paste is perfectly normal and 'ok'. All those 'bubbles' from the first pics are the grease from the first time he took it off.

The point is he didn't re-apply thermal paste, he re-used the stuff he alreadey had.

Secondly, he also cleaned OFF all the thermal paste and didn't put any more on.
Quote from Tweaker :First off, Jakg I don't know what you are on, but taking off a heatsink and re-applying thermal paste is perfectly normal and 'ok'. All those 'bubbles' from the first pics are the grease from the first time he took it off.

Besides, even if it is a laptop, that is fine too. I normally replaced the grease on my old laptop every 3 months, and it would give me a 10-15C decrease in max temperature each time while gaming. But whatever he is doing with this heatsink... mehhhhh.

If done right, a smart person would take off the paste on both the heatsink and cpu contacts and make sure no residue is left over. Then reapply a small portion in the very middle and re-mount the heatsink. You only need a little bit, and the grease will spread when you re-mount the heatsink, AND the grease will spread when heat dissipates after a week or two of normal use. I am sure we all learned how glue spreads underneath paper when we were kids, yes? :doh:

To be honest, I would go through the steps of applying the new grease, and then run the computer at normal specs. Then once temps seem to be fairly good, try overclocking, or whatever it is that gets you soiled....

If the PC continues to get hot, don't consider a new heatsink, consider looking at your fan/case solution, and see if it is even getting ample cooling overall.

ok thank you very much...i dont even know if my dam heatsink actually is touching my Heatsink at the moment...temperatures idle at 60 now...so where do i get the passt from then? any shop like car spares or halfords or something?
#33 - Jakg
Use your brain Harjun.

What are you working on?...


...A PC (Well, Laptop) so you will find the paste in a...you guessed it a PC SHOP!

It means buying it though. If you listened to everyone then you wouldnt have to spend £7 on thermal paste. Nor would you (or your parents) be spending money replacing your laptop.

You parents will not buy you a One Thousand pound PC for doing well in Key Stage 3. Even if they do, please don't over clock that either. Overclocking may come across as cool and it does, a kind of geeky cool, even I want to overclock, but I have the brains, comon sense and knowledge to know better. There are about 15 pages of people telling you not to do it. Now we are only on our 2nd page of how to fix your problem, which everyone warned you would happen.

Please, tell your parents you were a little silly with your laptop, get them to take it to a PC Repair Store (as your nor your parents seem to have any idea on what they are doing) get him to right your wrongs. Forget overclocking, study hard, get a job, pay for your own PC and dont kill that one. Please Harjun, I'm being deadly serious, I want to sit back and laugh at you like I've never laughed at someone before, because...well, you deserve it. People have tried to help you before and because people here are so kind, they will keep on trying. But please, atleast know what you are doing and that WONT come with reading a few links. It comes with years of built up knowledge.

Just listen to what everyone is telling you.
ive already got the case for my pc, and my power adaptor and stuff just looking for some more stuff for it, i dunno why im getting it...but i guess i will just use my laptop for some...experiments
Quote from harjun :ive already got the case for my pc, and my power adaptor and stuff just looking for some more stuff for it, i dunno why im getting it...but i guess i will just use my laptop for some...experiments

Experiments? You mean your going to just blow it up on purpose?

I don't get you mate. If you get a new computer why not sell your laptop and get better parts for your computer so you maybe don't need to overclock it. Honestly, we tell you every 2 minutes because we don't want you frying a perfectly good laptop. Maybe you'll start to belive us after this?
Quote from harjun :so where do i get the passt from then? any shop like car spares or halfords or something?

Just too funny for words.

....I'm off to PCworld for some brake pads....catch you later
harjun, if you overclock you should also benchmark you system. All that I've seen from you are some guesstimates as to what the exact fps was in lfs (while the lfs counter in lfs is the most irregular one i've ever seen).
So why don't you bring out 3dmark and proof the statements you're making (like running a 100mhz ppro at 900mhz!!)

Anyhow, this thread gets my vote for the most ridiculous thread of 2007
well ive already got my case as i said, i really want a quad core, or duo they overclock well till 4 ghz....and my power adapter is pretty cool! it has a fan

im hoping for water cooling, ive heard its more reliable, and a bit better?

So, as for my laptop, do i need that arctic cleaner? it says i need it to clean of the crap from cpu and heatsink....i found a set for £7

it will drop my CPU temperature down by 10 celcius....so if my system without my HS like...barely touching my cpu, temperatures idle at 60 celcius, and loads at 70 celcius....so does that mean it will idle around 40-50...but load at 60?

also should i put some on my integrated vga and get rid of that other squiddy stuff?...and will it be permanantly stuck to my CPU and HS, or can i remove it and apply it again, and will it damage anything, and is it safe...if i get it on my hands?
#40 - Jakg
Harjun, i SERIOUSLY suggest you read up on overclocking and PC's in general before declaring your "power adapter" is cool because it has a fan.

I REALLY wouldn't water cool - too much to go wrong in your hands.

And it will drop your temps more than 10° if your not using any paste at all.

And it's not permanent, and while you shouldn't get it in your eyes or open wounds it's fine on your hands.
It's like other people didn't even post any advice or warnings at all.

Biggest forum retard I have ever seen. Harjun, you are a complete cock.
Quote from Jakg :Harjun, i SERIOUSLY suggest you read up on overclocking and PC's in general before declaring your "power adapter" is cool because it has a fan.

I REALLY wouldn't water cool - too much to go wrong in your hands.

And it will drop your temps more than 10° if your not using any paste at all.

And it's not permanent, and while you shouldn't get it in your eyes or open wounds it's fine on your hands.

thank you SIR!

i will ask my dad on getting that, my current idea is

"dad, please can you just buy this for me, its WAY better than the normal rubbish paste i have at the moment, and its PURE SILVER!, thaats SO cheap for PURE silver?! so, and it will also make my performance, WAY WAY WAY! faster"

He should believe that
#43 - Jakg
FTR your better going to your Dad and saying "Dad, i almost broke my laptop by mucking about ignoring about 20 peoples warnings who know more than me" and then saying "...and now i'm FINALLY listening to them. I'll need to buy this paste to fix the massive cockup i made"
Quote from Jakg :FTR your better going to your Dad and saying "Dad, i almost broke my laptop by mucking about ignoring about 20 peoples warnings who know more than me" and then saying "...and now i'm FINALLY listening to them. I'll need to buy this paste to fix the massive cockup i made"

why wont superglue work? will it catch fire? (serious question by the way....:really and also, i cant wait till i get my new computer!

http://216.52.208.185/product/ ... .asp?item=N82E16819115017

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16813128046

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16814143080

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16827118003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16822148262

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ ... aspx?Item=N82E16820146673 (2 of these should do the job...)
#45 - Jakg
Quote from harjun :why wont superglue work?

Why the f*ck do i bother.

FTR NewEgg is a LOT cheaper than the UK - i'd get a P5K, 8800GTS, that memory is a bit naff and you've got no PSU or CPU
Quote from Jakg :Why the f*ck do i bother.

FTR NewEgg is a LOT cheaper than the UK - i'd get a P5K, 8800GTS, that memory is a bit naff and you've got no PSU or CPU

i do have a cpu...its the 1st one, Intel Core 2 Quad...which comes with the CPU cooler, and also, i have got a psu, i ordered it last week with my case
#47 - Jakg
I can't see a link to the first one, and chances are that PSU won't be man enough

(Without sounding like a fanboy, i'd recommend ditching the Mushkin for some Crucial Ballistix)
Hang on a second. A few days ago you weren't getting a new PC at all, with the SLIM chance of getting one if you do well in your KS3 exams. Now you have a quad core system on order?

Also, if you can't understand the difference between a specialised thermal paste and superglue do you really think you should be messing with your machine at all? Methinks not. Then again, this thread has made me laugh out loud so perhaps we should just leave you to it.

For goodness sake, give it up Harjun!

BTW, it seems that Halfords have cut the prices of motherboards and cooling systems in their sale....
i haven't ordered them yet, my dad just told me, are you SURE that will all work out....
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