My power supply had a fan. I'm referring, of course, to the supply of my old 386, back in the days...

Holy crap, your power supply has a fan? daaaamn wish i had one [/sarcasm]

Nice one on getting the pics harjun, when you reckon you can take some pics?

maybe saturday when i go to my dad's work and i dont have school?

Thats pretty cool about your PSU having a fan, guess what, my shitty 5 year old Celeron has a fan on its 300watt low amp PSU too. Isn't that just amazing? It's soo advanced... got a web link to the case and PSU you bought?
~Bryan~

I would donate a tube of AS5 to Harjun, i have more tubes of the stuff here than i can shake a stick at, but i don't think i should. It won't do any good, he will waste the stuff, put it in the wrong place or something. Or maybe take the heatsink back off to apply MORE paste when he see's the temp drop after putting some on initially.

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use the edge of a credit card

Or, if your mum won't let you use her credit card again you can always use a £50 bill before disposing of it in the fireplace after taking a swing of port and indulging yourself to a self-praising chuckle of utter success.

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harjun - artic silver (or any other thermal paste) is easy to apply, squeeze a little from the tube and spread it as thinly and evenly as possible, use the edge of a credit card or similar. Once covered, remount the heatsink. Note if the heatsink base doesn't have a mirror finish, it can be worthwhile rubbing in a small amount of the paste into the base of the heatsink, the wiping off the excess. This should fill in any microscopic air holes for a better seal.

Actually the best way it to use the amount of AS5 you need (which comes from experience) and then use the HS pressure to make a thin layer - this way you get no air bubbles, however if you use too little, or too much...

If you want to try this, get an extra tube of AS5, just to put some on and see if squeezing it out works for you, ie if you use too much/little.

Harjun, check your PM's please

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Harjun, check your PM's please

i have...i hope you aren't joking, because, well, he asked me how do i make his laptop faster, and i said use ATI Winclk...and UP IT HIGH!

FTR that app is an ATi Overcloking tool

ATi Tool is much better, as it has artefact scanning built in...

but i can't overclock my graphics card with that programme...doesnt work , unless you can help me jakg?

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no....

anyway jakg....so should i just order that arctic silver 5....and put about a ball the size of a bb pellet on it, and then spread with a card?....so all area is covered....with a nice layer, about a fifth of a millimetre deep?....and then do the same on my heatsink right?

*slaps Head*

Firstly, please do NOT overclock any part of your PC. If you want more speed, and you blatently don't want portability, sell the laptop and get a desktop.

If i were you i'd get some AS5, get a ball HALF the size of a BB pellet then push the heatsink on.

Don't try to measure it in any sort of layer - ideally you want enough to fill any microscopic holes and to counteract for any convex/concave-ness, which could mkae it a nanometer thick.

im not going to overclock it...and yes, here is my thread ...
http://www.overclock.net/intel ... erclockable-computer.html

i decided not to go with that quad....i asked on the forums, i'm going to go with their advice, i'm just going to fix my laptop up nice and clean, put the "return to factory settings" disc back in returning it to crappy vista....and give it a good clean, and maybe sell it, or i might keep xp and use laptop around the house...etc.

as for the desktop, i've provided the link above. I guess thats quite an amazing PC for....well £500!, i already have a half decent monitor anyway, and i can buy one of those

are you sure i don't need to spread like, the arctic silver around?....because a half bb of that isn't going to be enough....and the cpu metal thingy which i will be putting the AS5 on, is rectangular..., so shall i put half a bb on each side?

Erm, the PC he just specced out is a dual core E2180 - Chozart is working on the assumption that you know how to overclock - i'd go for something like an E6320 or an E6420...

You shouldn't need to spread the AS5, and half a BB WILL be enough, do not use a rediculous amount.

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I think i can sell my laptop for £400-£450...

No way would you be able to sell it for that price. You will be lucky to get £150 for it.

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Erm, the PC he just specced out is a dual core E2180

What exactly is the difference between the different Core 2 processors? Any site got a nice little plain english run down of the differences?

Dual Cores:
The E21x0 series - badged as Pentiums, but Core 2 based, "only" have 1 MB of Cache though, this only makes 5% difference in tests to 4 MB cache - overclock monsters - 800 MHz FSB

E4300/E4400 - 1 MB cache, 800 MHz FSB - Old budget overclockers.

The E6300/E6400 - 1.86/2.13 GHz, 2 MB Cache, 1066 MHz FSB

The E6320/E6400/E6600/E6700 - 1.86/2.13/2.4/2.66 GHz, 4 MB cache - 1066 MHz FSB

The E6550/E6750/E6850 - 1333 MHz FSB, 4 MB cache.

Quad Cores:
Xeon X3210 (Strictly a Q6400, however they decided to badge it as a Xeon) - 8 MB Cache, 2.13 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB

Q6600, QX6700 - 1066 MHz FSB, 8 MB cache

QX6850 - 3 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB.

The "Q" means Quad Core, the "X" means Extreme, which means unlocked multipliers (upwards, all will go down 3x).

The FSB doesn't make too much difference, it's the speed the CPU and the RAM interface at, ie 800 MHz FSB = DDR400, 1333 MHz FSB = DDR667

Cache makes minimal difference (tests showed a 3 GHz E6600 vs a 3 GHz E2160 left the E2160 only about 5% down - not bad for half the price!).

TBH FSB is a little bit stupid - overclock whores will probably end up running a high number to use all of their memory bandwidth, ie i'm running at 1600 MHz FSB and i've "only" overclocked from 2.13 to 2.8 GHz

The important new revision of Core 2 CPU's is the "G0" stepping - these run cooler, and can take more heat - the golden example is the G0 Q6600, which is good for up to 3.6 GHz on high end air cooling.

That ok?

whoa....cool!

anyway,

your coool jakg

dont forget to get pics of your new desktop harjun.

To Harjuns defence - he said he wanted to get this hardware, not that he had...

my cousin's laptop which he has passed over to me has an Intel Centrino Duo processor 1.7Ghz...2Gb RAM 512mb Graphics card...and its really good because it runs LFS at around 80-90 fps....but the problem is, is that it puts out...a LOT of heat, load temps are 70 celcius...i have a feeling that it is VERY dusty inside, i haven't tried cleaning it though, its an acer like mine...but a LOT better, mainly because of the VGA, Processor, and RAM....BUT!, its really cool inside, its heatsink is like mine, but for some reason, it has....TWO of them!, and it has its own little mini heatsink on the graphics card

I opened up my sister's laptop...and that has a proper IHS....with a fan on top...sort of like the blue one i have pictures of in my first few posts....its load temps are an unbeliavable 45 celcius...and that is the TRUTh...but its only a centrino DUO...with 1gb of ram, and im not sure which VGA it has....

Its soo cool, but it runs lfs at only 50fps....so i believe the thing which is letting my laptop down, is the Graphics card, also, will there be an increase in performance on the processor side....if the temperatures are at a reasonable load amount (i dunno....35-40?)....and, so, this is the summarry

My Laptop: Standard- 40fps
Overclocked to 1.9Ghz, and VGA core speed at 500Mhz- 60-70fps, on very high quality

Sisters Laptop: Standard- 50fps

Cousins Laptop: 90-100fps....

Bear in mine, i have a AMD Turion 64 X2

so....do you think its my vga letting me down?, and do you think i could possibly buy a new one, because i'm not so sure about buying my custom PC....because i guess i will have trouble making it, and by the way, do i have to put all of those resisters and what not on the motherboard ON?

So, is there anyway i could upgrade my integrated...VGA?

Thanks
Harjun

Errr, no. The resistors are already on the motherboard....

And BTW i REALLY doubt that you get that such an FPS drop via overclocking...

Added some pictures of my A8N-SLi - it also came with some cables, but as you can see everything was already on it.

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You shouldn't need to spread the AS5, and half a BB WILL be enough, do not use a rediculous amount.

id claim that as is way too sticky to do it this way