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#51 - Nobo
Quote from BlueFlame :You can't not be enthusiastic about cars and post say... in the Improvement suggestions, because as far as your concerned, cars don't interest you.. .

Says a person who posts in a "global warming"-thread with 0 % knowledge of science and want to disprove what 1000's of scientists have worked out over decades.
You guys really can't just forget the past can you? Latching onto it like some Old-Girlfriend and Kev... I thought you put me on your Ignore list

I get angry, when i don't understand something because to me. If you don't understand, your losing. If you understand, your winning. Obviously it comes across in my conversation but this is about the topic, not about my previous posts in other topics. It seems your just trying to make others agree with you so YOU can fit in because you seem to think making fun of my 'stupidity' is funny. Do you honestly laugh at people less clever than you? And you think Racism is worse? In my opinion its the same. It just goes to show, you can be as high and mighty as you want, but when it comes down to it, everyone has a characteristic of themselves that is similar to the type of people one does not get along with.

Strange isn't.. a so called 'village idiot and racist' seems to be more polite. I obviously don't agree with what most of you say but did I ever laugh? No. Because I am actually listening. You are more arrogant than I sir. @ Kev
Mabe you mixed up two words.
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Quote from Boris Lozac :But what i meant is that i don't understand how come people play LFS and on the other hand have no interest in cars, racing, or motosports...

Why would you want to understand such things? Whenever I try to understand why someone wants to be a real life racer, I find their reasons irrilevant for me... Fame, money, women, love of cars, competitivity...

None of these things is good enough for me to want to be a real life racer. But I like the additional immaterial layer of virtual reality when it comes to something I'm only marginally interested in real life, it fascinates me for a countless numbers of reasons. I'd drive a sports car gladly just to try, but nothing more than that. I'm quite comfortable with my life, but if someone asked me if I'd prefer to be - if I wasn't myself - Tim Berners Lee or Michael Schumacher, I'd say Tim Berners Lee instantly.

Knowledge and fun are the keys, for me. LFS is for me a better way to the knowledge and fun I'm interested in. I recognise that my reasons may be at the same time impossible and easy to understand, but I would say the same of yours.

So personally I try not to question other's people interests because if you want you'll always find something better for someone else to do depending on your logic/tastes, if you really want, although doing so you may forget that each human being is unique, and so are his/her reasons.

Edit: and Blueflame, if I believed in ignore lists you'd be one of the very few having the honour of getting in, since you always try to stir up trouble. When you get it please don't be offended. You were looking for it.
Blue Flame, don't act like a schoolgirl... I also said that it is strange to me that there are people like Kev playing LFS, but to make me angry?? What you on about...

EDIT: @ Albeig, fair enough.. i can understand it totally, just like planes fascinate me and i always wanted to play Flight simulator, but at the same time they scare the sh*t out of me..
#56 - axus
BlueFlame, I have you on my ignore list but wherever your posts are, there's this view post button that shows me what you said and it's always really tempting to click it. Whenever I read one of your posts, I get depressed - I can't even laugh anymore. They are all full of this sweeping arrogance - "I know it all and there's not a damn thing anyone can teach me". Not only that but you get angry when people don't agree with you on matters you clearly know very little about. I can't think of a single person who actually agrees with you when you start arguing here - it's always pretty much just you against the forum. I doubt you have many friends with that attitude.

I also see you complain a lot. You think you've been dealt a rough one. Everyone has problems - you live in a first world country and while its leadership does not make the best choices all the time, you get one great thing there and that's opportunity. Do you know how many amazingly clever people I've met, who've ended up only a shadow of what they could have become because they don't have the opportunity to shine? Yet you choose to complain about where you live on an internet forum to people who don't know you.

As for the past - yes, the impression stays. When people see you've changed, they change their attitude towards you, and a few months down the line, the past is forgotten - never immediately. Take Jakg as an example, he used to spam and I doubt that even he would deny that now. But he's grown up and people don't call him a spammer anymore, go figure. Your posts are still full of the same, off-the-scale arrogance and ignorance. I hope some of that went in, really but my expectations aren't high.
No, I'm not scared, I've done some dangerous things in my life, although I'm old enough not to do dangerous stuff at the moment. I don't care that much about my life, I don't have a deep survival instinct, but I'm 36 and a lot of people would suffer if I did something stupid, but I'm not scared, just responsible.

Paradoxically I'd fly a plane and sooner or later I'll learn to do it, and not in a sim, but I'll have to do it when my mom is dead and only if my girlfriend is by my side. We've always thought it would be romantic to die together, so that wouldn't be a problem. Definitely, it's not fear.

Edit: a cousin of mine was a pilot of Frecce Tricolori. He died in the Netherlands a lot of time ago for an engine failure, so he decided to crash in a safe spot instead of ejecting over a crowd. He always loved speedy cars and planes. That never scared me. His name was PierGianni Petri, he died in 1979. My father was in the Italian Air Force and I live in Udine, which is near Rivolto, base of Frecce Tricolori. when Piergianni died I lived in Villafranca di Verona near the military airport, home of 3° Stormo. Planes don't fascinate me, flying does.
Quote from Boris Lozac :I also said that it is strange to me that there are people like Kev playing LFS,

I can't believe what a leper I've become in the course of a few posts!

One thing I do like about LFS is it gives me a better appreciation for the sort of skills that racing drivers have and the way cars can be made to behave, so it makes watching motorsport more interesting because I understand it better. And regardless of how I feel about cars "in real life", I'm still going to race you as fast as I can on the internet.
Quote from thisnameistaken :I can't believe what a leper I've become in the course of a few posts!

LOL Well it's your own fault, it IS strange really.. I can understand people playing NFS and have no interest in cars, but to go hardcore and play a racing SIM... that's what strikes me about that...
Quote from thisnameistaken :I can't believe what a leper I've become in the course of a few posts!

Leper? In my eyes you're able to appreciate something for what it is and what it gives to you without considering it a forced replacement for something you miss, since you don't miss it.

If you're a leper, you're a lucky, happy and wise one. Something that generally couldn't be said of other real or virtual lepers.

Edit: Boris, I also play and enjoy Trackmania, which is as close to reality as a Salvador Dali painting. I play it for different reasons. But as for LFS, I immediately liked the effort of simulating something which isn't real (I refer to most cars and to all tracks), but struggles to be as close as possible to reality. NFS is unsatisfactory in that respect: it's neither fish nor flesh. It's not informational about reality and that makes it closer to Trackmania than to LFS. Most simmers who don't strive for doing something in real life love the informational aspects of sims. There's nothing strange in it. That's why some people likes to play hardcore sims instead of arcades where reality is only a surface that gives absolutely no clue about how stuff really works. In this (and not only in this) I'm with Kev and Xaotik. I guess that Scawen had to learn a lot of things coding LFS, I learn a lot of things just playing it, and I'm happy with it. Moreover I drive decidedly better since I play LFS, and that's something that helps me in my real life, although I never race or drive at the limit when I'm on a real road. Could you say the same about NFS?
Heidfeld is a n00b, he doesn't know anything about racing, hehh...
Just kidding
Quote from axus :it's always pretty much just you against the forum. I doubt you have many friends with that attitude.

You honestly think you can get around in Social circles without being arrogant? My humour doesn't cut it, you boys know that, so you have to be aggressive.
Quote from axus :
I also see you complain a lot. You think you've been dealt a rough one. Everyone has problems - you live in a first world country and while its leadership does not make the best choices all the time, you get one great thing there and that's opportunity. Do you know how many amazingly clever people I've met, who've ended up only a shadow of what they could have become because they don't have the opportunity to shine? Yet you choose to complain about where you live on an internet forum to people who don't know you.

You don't understand. I live in a 3rd world country anyone that thinks differently needs to go in the street here and you will see people smoking spliffs in public, breaking windows. Needles on the floor. etc.etc. People are going to blame that on where I live.. Well there is Nice places in african countries too but then why are most of those classified as 3rd world countries? I still fear my life here. I still live in a place where Racist slurs are written on peoples cars, and to be honest.. its not done by who you would normally think it is done by.
Quote from axus :As for the past - yes, the impression stays. When people see you've changed, they change their attitude towards you, and a few months down the line, the past is forgotten - never immediately. Take Jakg as an example, he used to spam and I doubt that even he would deny that now. But he's grown up and people don't call him a spammer anymore, go figure. Your posts are still full of the same, off-the-scale arrogance and ignorance. I hope some of that went in, really but my expectations aren't high.

I am trying to change. I am trying to cleanse myself of this Nazi ****shit, but it doesn't help when Muslims and Blacks are shooting people in this so called country I'm a citizen of. My arrogance and ignorance isn't senseless or two-footed stupidness. It's for a reason. My english? I can't explain that. My post will now by disected by ravenous posters and I shall have to defend myself. I don't think I'm right about anything but I believe in alot of things. Try telling a Catholic God doesn't exist, its nothing to do with what is true and not true, its about belief. Even if Statistics could be placed against Non-atheists. They won't stand down and I respect that. People often don't say I'm wrong because they understand what I say and then Disagree. They say I'm wrong because they DON'T understand what I am trying to say. This proves a stronger arrogance than any other IMO. I guess being all tough or w/e over an Internet forum is lame, but because of my past views on religion or w/e people are disecting my posts about something TOTALLY different. When it's a subject that couldn't be more distant, from the reason they are disecting my posts for.

Big Essay.. I should burn for this
Quote :You honestly think you can get around in Social circles without being arrogant?

Guess it depends if the people you're hanging out with respect an arrogant attitude or not. Strangely enough I don't come across people like that often. If I can't dazzle with my encyclopedic knowledge of the intricate workings of things, I'll just ride the conversation with a thoughtful silence, periodically broken by turning my head to look at stuff.
Quote from BlueFlame :
Big Essay.. I should burn for this

Unfortunately an essay is something else, to be good generally it has to have some logic in it, it has to be written in an understandable way for its intended public, and it shouldn't contain mistakes. For those reasons I'll spare you an analysis of what you wrote. Since you don't like dissections of your writings, I hope you'll be more than happy.
Quote from Albieg :Unfortunately an essay is something else, to be good generally it has to have some logic in it, it has to be written in an understandable way for its intended public, and it shouldn't contain mistakes. For those reasons I'll spare you an analysis of what you wrote. Since you don't like dissections of your writings, I hope you'll be more than happy.

The point of me writing that wasn't for you to say anything like that. You just proved how unconstructive you really are.

As for Electrik Kar's post. In England. There is only 2 ways you can be popular. Funny or Tough. Especially when your a teenager like me. You can't go anywhere if you didn't take your tough boots with you. I have had stick before, when I was just a 'nice guy' now I put my foot down. I seem to achieve the peacefulness I wanted in the first place. The world is a twisted place.
I'm not so sorry to be unconstructive for you, BlueFlame. The only two unconstructive things for me now would be answering again to a person who has such a low reputation and drifting the thread further off topic with completely uninteresting, selfish and offensive thoughts, as you've been doing in the first place.

This thread was about Heidfeld playing LFS, but I think few people have to complain about it being a serene discussion about why people generally uninterested in being a real life race driver like racing in LFS, but since there's nothing serene in what you write, there's no point in answering to you.

And if someone complained to me because I'm answering to a person with such a bad reputation, I'd understand. So I'll shut up for good and let you spit your hatred until someone else who deems you irrelevant or irritating will answer. Welcome to my virtual ignore list. Good job, Mr Constructive.
#67 - axus
Well, I don't know what kinds of social circles you hang out in - fact of the matter is one ought to just be what he wants to be and not let anyone get in the way of that. There's a difference between pretending that you're winning and really winning. Success isn't measured by how many people think you're successful, it's measured by whether you think you are. Don't be afraid to be the odd one out. If you do that in England, focus on your education, the subjects you enjoy, go for a career in such a field and you're bound for success. In many places, you're still going to just end up with a mediocre life.

You bring up religion. Now, I'm not religious (which is a step beyond atheist - I don't actually care to worship anything because I think that if there was a god, true belief would not consist of worship and furthermore I don't care to believe in the non-existance of a god because it doesn't matter to me) but no-one knows if there is a god, really. A discussion that can be dealt with scientifically is a completely different matter.
My off-topicness Albeig is because people like you cease to bring up past things I have said, in vain attempts to bring amusements among yourself. You think your better than me? Obviously but garentee you, in real life. Things would be different.

Axus - I understand everything you say, but still 1 thing I don't agree with. You say success isn't measured by what you think.. Well.... yea.. Thats exactly how Success is measured... If nobody thought anyone was successful then, It's not really obtainable.

To Further Albeig : By going off-topic and expanding is Constructive. You mustn't know the meaning of the word if you break it down, it means to make something, I am making a new branch of conversation, therefore constructing more conversational options, for those reading the thread. The fact people brought up their opinions about my past posts on other threads, I cannot control.
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Quote from BlueFlame :My off-topicness Albeig is because people like you cease to bring up past things I have said

I'm sorry to have to answer again and eat up the words I said, but I didn't bring issues of the past here. I'm referring to what you wrote here. You're a just a liar.

I've had guns pointed at me, my house has been robbed by some Albanians, my car has been stolen too, I've been close to death four times in my life, found the corpse of my father one day after he was dead, I've destroyed a door with my shoulder to drag a very close relative out of a WC where she was committing suicide and my best friend is an ex inmate who knows more about life than what you can say you have learned up till now. These are just but a few of the bad things that happened or happen in my life. I won't mention all the others. Not everything is pleasant, but I accept it. I won't listen to your spoiled brat stories. They are nothing new to me. Don't talk about life as if you were the only one to be hurt. The only difference between me and you is that I don't think my sufferings authorise me to offend other people. Learn to respect others, and maybe you'll get some respect.
I am stepping in the deep end here.
Everybody has had bad things happen to them, funny how nobody thinks that when trying to make a point.
I could make stuff up to counter what you just said. Saying you found your father like that. It's not the kind of stuff people normally talk about openly.
Your obviously having a happy enough life if you feel it nessacary to try to put me on the road to 'recovery' as it were.
Tell me, what Music to you listen to?
You're a liar and an offensive idiot. I can talk about that stuff easily because these are things I've accepted, and I'm open about it. They don't keep me from having a satisfactory life, except when I meet morons like you.

Oh, music... IDM, Techno (but not the kind of brainless shit you're making with Fruityloops) , Contemporary, Alternative Rock, Punk, Hardcore. Too much to mention. On my decks I have Zauberberg by Gas and Flip Your Whig by Husker Du at the moment.
Well I don't believe what you say, nobody uses experiences like that unless they want sympathy meaning (they haven't got over it) or they are trying to make a point with it, which is heartless. Many people here have been in the same situations on here. Even though your not saying that others haven't. The way you have posted it, insinuates that you are still trying to prove a point. You could of just said I had it lucky, and then , if i asked why, then you could of told me but now you have said that. I can't stop thinking about it. And i can't talk to you about this if it makes you unhappy
Maybe you guys could continue this via PM or messenger?

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