Hi all! I've got a G25 recently and obviously, going nuts with the shifter . Anyway, since I was using a Sidewinder before where the brake pedal was very light, I'm not really used to the stiffness of the brake pedal of the G25 and then heel and toe makes it even harder since I lift my heel from the brake pedal so then I lose brake pressure because of some muscle strain. Anyway, anyone here know a good way to use my feet to do heel and toe efficiently whilst still having a strong amount of brake pressure?

I know some may say that I've posted in the wrong section but I think this applies to real life heel and toeing which I will be planning on doing soon (if it all works out )

First and foremost you should keep practicing your muscles doing the move. Once your mucles are strong enough they can easily keep pedal pressure.
But, the biggest problem with the g25 and heel and toeing is the incorrect placing of the pedals. You can easily resolve that by placing the throttle and brake pedal closer, and also putting the throttle pedal further away from you then the brake pedal.
If you need some video's of heel and toe action, check my youtube account

So to summarize it, keep practicing

The G25 is flawed for heel-toe.

1. The pedals are position sensitive, not pressure sensitive.
2. The pedals are very under-sprung.
3. The pedals are too far apart.

But ultimately it comes down to practice. I can heel-toe pretty much any car in real life, and my ECCI pedals (which don't have a clutch, so I don't use them at the moment). But I can't heel-toe the G25 at all. So I don't bother trying.

Quote from Leprekaun :

I lift my heel from the brake pedal so then I lose brake pressure because of some muscle strain. Anyway, anyone here know a good way to use my feet to do heel and toe efficiently whilst still having a strong amount of brake pressure?

You shouldn't have your heel on the brake pedal to begin with. You should be putting the balls of your feet on the pedals, nothing more. If you're pushing 100% down on the brakes, you can easily rotate your foot to stomp on the gas pedal with your heel. Practice will make you more comfortable with heel-toe at lower braking levels.

Practice makes perfect. I use heel-toe every day when I drive so I'd say that I'm rather good at it. That said, it didn't happen overnight.

Hope that helped! Good luck!

(actually, I hope it doesn't help because the last thing that I need is more people beating me in LFS)

Quote from tristancliffe :

and my ECCI pedals

You lucky bint.

I'll swap you my Moped for your MX5 and your ECCI pedals.

Come on...?

EDIT - You look like a hair-dresser in an MX5, while on my bike you'd look.... cool?

IRL heel and toe is easier, because the brake is pressure sensitive. It stays about the same position even if the pressure varies a little during the throttle blip.

When I had a red momo force, the squash ball mod made the brake so stiff at the far end of travel, that it felt pretty much like a pressure sensitive pedal.

I haven't even seen a G25, but if you can mod the brake very stiff, I believe it helps heel & toeing.

EDIT: Once again Tristan had already cleared this

Quote from tristancliffe :

The G25 is flawed for heel-toe.

1. The pedals are position sensitive, not pressure sensitive.
2. The pedals are very under-sprung.
3. The pedals are too far apart.

1. i agree except the break is the only one that needs to be preassure sensitive.
2.also agree(depending on the cars)
3.the pedals re just positioned wrong: first of all, the pedals aren't hanging. second the gass pedal is not long enough, and lastly the break is not high enough for the gas pedal's position

1. Obviously.
2. I can't think of many cars that have so little effort required on the brake or clutch
3. I prefer floor mounted pedals. Less conflicting arcs. Top mounted pedals only exist to save space in shopping trolley cars