Sorry if this has been posted before..

Fe Club is imho not a race track but a practise track.. it's just no fun racing there, overtaking is next to impossible and all the tires and stuff rolling on to the track make it even worse...

It would be bliss if it was removed from the track list.. I think the mayority of drivers dislikes this track for racing..

Just my 2 cents, ofcourse I'm not in a position to complain, CTRA is a nice thing, atleast it give me a chance to race road cars more But just wanted to point out to the admins that it might be nice to switch it for something else

greetz

Personally I love racing Fe Club. One of the best nights I had in LFS was with 20 GTR cars around Fe Club. It was very intense.

cough*** RALLYX ***cough

Quote from auch_enne :

It would be bliss if it was removed from the track list.. I think the mayority of drivers dislikes this track for racing..

I don't remember there ever being a poll about it, because i certainly don't agree with you...

FE Club promotes some of the best racing ever, it's just that the drivers racing there have to drive hard and fair and have mutal respect for each other at the chicanes etc etc..
Many times recently i have been involved with close racing their without issue. IMO it''s to do with driver ability than track suitability..

Ok guess I was wrong Thanks for the quick reply's and ofcourse I hope you have alot of fun races on fe club in the future


btw since I'm being a naging bastard now anywayz, could CTRA host a lx4 server, or an LRF server?

We tried in the past but it didnt really work, however, we do have long term plans to introduce LX's again.

Currently we're in a bit of a lull for players. We've had to amalgamate several servers into 1 for our Race 2 server and single seaters are not proving as successful as our tin top servers, BnJ is almost always empty. This is the quietest CTRA has ever been.

We're addressing BnJ now, I made changes today I hope make a difference and plan more changes soon. Then we're going to turn our attention to single seaters. We might have to think outside of the box on that one, so hang tight whilst we figure out what we can do.

Fundamentally though, we're a long time since the last patch and overall the active LFS player base is quite low at the moment. Introducing a new server now would only further complicate things.

Yes I see your point and agree.

Alot of platinum, gold, titanium drivers are still going to CTRA 1, it might be because they just like the close racing of the slower cars, or and I think this is more likely, since there is nobody in CTRA2 nobody will join, and if nobody joins.. well you get the point, it's self sustaining paradox (a vicious circle is the word I'm looking for I think).

I think once the player base with gold license and up is big enough the CTRA2 server will be used more, or once people just join there even it is empty or low populated.. Don't think there is much to be done against it

About the other 2 types of license, open wheelers is just not my thing but I do see them driven alot so why they prefer that other server over CTRA is beyond me.. maybe ask openwheelers what they mis or dislike about the CTRA openwheeler server?

The bump and run thing, well I just don't understand what's the point there Is it a server which uses auto-x tracks so there are new tracks, or is it a form of destruction derby?


I think in general the player base for LFS aint that big, so filling up 3 different types of server with each their own ladder system is hard. That's always the difficulty of a multiplayer game, you need the players Maybe though if Scawen is cooking some nice computerbrains for breakfast you can set a minimum of 5 cars on your server, making them appear in the list of games, and for each player that connects an AI is replaced... Just having the server in the list might solve the "problem"

Well I hope all your hard work doesnt go down the drain like Victors ladder system did.. or the auto-x website thingy.. why that isn't use more is beyond me. I know it's hotlap based instead of door to door racing but the ability to create new challenges as in new track and have people fight for the "wr" should be appealing enough imho


Well I'll stop now before my post turns in to a book and by any means, you guys already though of all this prolly

Cool to see my post has brought out some new info about CTRA future plans though

greetz

Quote from auch_enne :

Alot of platinum, gold, titanium drivers are still going to CTRA 1i

And thats the problem for us slow'uns, we haven't a chance of getting any points, and personally i'm not keen on the cars in CTRA1. So if Becks and gang do an LX server i'll never have enough points to be able to join.

Oh boy not the points discussion again!

I'd like to give my 2 cents worth on the single seater situation at the moment. I think the fjr should go, and nat A and maybe nat B's should be able to use unrestricted fo8's on SS2 server. At the moment nobody seems to use fjr's (and having just got nat A I can see why).
I love racing the fo8's but the thought of spending 6 months of racing the fox until I can get enough points makes me sad.

P.s. Big thank you to everyone who has helped in giving us the ctra system, it is fantastic.

Maybe gold drivers and people above could be denied to join Race 1 server? Like, if they joined - "kicked - gold lisence drivers and above please use Race 2 server".

But as you said, this is not what this topic is for.

And I just want to say, I just love FE Club, one of my favorite tracks!

Quote from Becky Rose :

Currently we're in a bit of a lull for players. We've had to amalgamate several servers into 1 for our Race 2 server and single seaters are not proving as successful as our tin top servers, BnJ is almost always empty. This is the quietest CTRA has ever been.

Well, please don't make any knee-jerk reactions (not that I expect you would). What I mean is that if the CTRA goes through a quiet phase, it doesn't mean things have to start being changed. If you want this tiered system to last, then trying to populate all the servers so quickly will surely shorten the lifespan in the long run. Yes, SS2 and SS3 are routinely empty. But give it time, and as the number of SS2 qualified drivers reaches a critical mass, there'll be some terrific racing on there.

Likewise with the Race 2 (and what used to be the Race 3) server. Haven't had time to drive CTRA lately, but Race 2 isn't really working for me at the moment, and Race1 doesn't interest me much except the odd track I find great fun in the XRG. Nothing to do with the quality of driving on Race2, that's generally excellent. It's more the switching between TBO+UF1 and GTRs, the multiple classes on track don't work on smaller tracks (or indeed the UF1 which is often much too slow to mingle with TBOs), and as a Silver driver you actually go backwards in the car progression by being forced to drive the UF1 at times. I don't like the castrated big GTRs either. As a silver driver on Race2, I race there more for points in order to progress to some proper cars in the otherwise excellent CTRA system. If it were up to me, I'd bring back Race 3, even if it stands mostly empty like SS2. Make Race2 for the TBOs, Race 3 is GTR. Silver and above is TBO on Race 2, Gold and above is GT2 on Race 3, and Platinum/Titanium is full-bore GTR on Race 3. You know you want to.

Quote from The Very End :

Maybe gold drivers and people above could be denied to join Race 1 server? Like, if they joined - "kicked - gold lisence drivers and above please use Race 2 server".

But as you said, this is not what this topic is for.

Indeed, it's been discussed many a time. But I see no reason why a Gold driver should be excluded from the racing on the XFG/XRG server if those are the cars they like. They should just be excluded from the points calculations, and roughly speaking, the points assigned as if they weren't there.

Quote from STROBE :

Indeed, it's been discussed many a time. But I see no reason why a Gold driver should be excluded from the racing on the XFG/XRG server if those are the cars they like. They should just be excluded from the points calculations, and roughly speaking, the points assigned as if they weren't there.

Sorry but I do not agree.
Gaining points and ascending the CTRA ladder should be slow enough so that you get enough experience before you can access other (higher?) race servers. That keeps the newbies such as me out of the way.
However the problem arises for already experienced racers who want to access CTRA, they will not accept to spend hours on race1 / SS1 before they get into more "advanced" racing.
There may be an alternative solution between these racers and CTRA admins? Direct Gold license under probation or something the like?

Seeing my points progress over a few races I think access to higher level licenses is good, and definitely not too slow. So keeping higher than gold out of points distribution would ruin the system. Plus I like to learn and race with them!

Anyone who believes gold and above drivers are motivated to take part in race 1 by points are clearly not gold or above drivers. They really do get naff all, they can score substantially more in a single race on the second tier than an entire evening on race 1 - that of course assumes they are low enough to get any points at all on race 1.

They race there because they enjoy it, because it's a good server to race on for people who enjoy those cars, and i'm not about to take that away from them.

Race 1 is awesomely fun, especially with faster drivers, because it makes it cleaner to drive, and less worry about an irresponsible driver. Race 2 can be fun, sadly during my timezone, it's about as lively as a cemetary party. When some of the other North Americans, and even Aussies wake up and come in, Race 2 can be a blast (and a place for major points whoring), especially in the GT2 cars.

Personally, Race 1 is simply a place I go to, to get a race when my timezone is showing its clear lacking attendance in Race 2.

I agree, race 1 is very fun, the only real problem that i see is that the server is overloaded, at evening it's impossible to join within half an hour..."host is full" "host is full" "race is full" "race is full"...I suggest 2 "1" servers, 1a and 1b...maybe uf1...

Hi All

What about a second server for CTRA1 that is only available for use by Silver and upwards?

This would mean that the better/experienced drivers who enjoy driving the XFG and XRG can still have these available to them, the standard of driving on that server will be better overall and those like me who are gaining points/experience will be able step up that much quicker. It would also free up space in the 'standard' CTRA1 server.

At the moment I like the close racing that those two cars allow and wouldn't want to lose the use of them in a higher server.

Paul