Don't know what youre smoking but the JGTC Skylines are FR layout. As for comparing a JGTC Supra and an FZ50 GTR.... Engines at the wrong end. To be honest We coudl stand another Front engine Rear drive GTR, with a naturally aspirated engine. We could also use a Mid Engine GTR for sure, but lets be intelligent enough to stop slagging off cars just because of where they come from.
Says the person who takes thier name from Initial D.
For you I suggest watching the following episode of VOD cars, In which a properly prepared Civic CRX dusts a Lamborghini Galardo http://youtube.com/watch?v=uG1roCjcca0
I just hate those dum americans who just hate japanese cars cos they sell more, last longer and arent shaped with an axe.
most of americans, i guess, dont know why to hate japs... they just do.
Hmmmm You must be refering to the "Keiichi" part of my nick, and inferring a reference to Tsuchiya. A common mistake actually, but it's a tip of the hat to Keiichi Morisato from AA Megami-sama, a rather popular anime by Fujishima.
As for the RX7 part, who doesn't like art in motion? Besides I was workon on ressurecting an old FB for a few months. Sadly money ran out before just after I got the engine running.
American cars are (with some notable exceptions) bland pieces of shit.
European cars are (with some notable exceptions) bland pieces of shit.
Japanese cars are (with some notable exceptions) bland pieces of shit.
See a pattern?
Korean cars are the shit, though.
Oh yeah, and bikes. Nothing's cooler than a bike, doesn't matter where it comes from.
Didn't really comapre the Supra and the FZ. XRR would be the most appropriate since the Supra used to have a 2.0-ish turbo engine. I was just saying we 'could' use a car like that (FZ Turbo). That would be the real GTR, these are more like JGTC or DTM.
And are you sure the skylines were FR?? I know they swapped the engine for a V6 but I think 4 WD was banned in JGTC too after the R34s. It gave them too much advantage. AFAIK ofcourse.
Yes, I see a pattern. It is of your opinion that the 3 geographically based brands of cars you first list are boring, but I could take it as they are inferior mechanically as well with the "pieces of shit" tacked on the end. Then you state Korean cars "are the shit", which would be slang stating that Korean cars such as the very poorly quality rated Kia and Hyundai, which are the only Korean cars that I know are available to us, are of superior quality.
Has nothing to do with the fact that my "piece of shit" Japanese manufactured 1988 Toyota 4Runner ran 8 years and 80k+ miles of it's 189k mile life that I had it without antifreeze or oil changes, had been totaled and welded back together by a very inexperienced welding noob (me) twice, could sit with a brick on the throttle while started (have to add that) and in neutral bouncing off the rev limiter at 7500 rpms all day long without worry, clutch dumped and burn off 31 inch oversized off-road tires shifting through 3 gears, and after all the horrid 4wheeling abuse I put it through, then sold with 189k miles on the clock, is still driving out on the road today.
Yes, those Japanese vehicles really are pieces of shit. I have a Mazda Tribute (aka. Ford Escape) with 10,000 miles now, and I'm worried that if I don't flush and change the transmission fluid in the next 5k, I'll be looking at possibly replacing the tranny sometime around when the 48k mile warranty is up. Hmm, never changed the oil from 105k to 189k in the POS Toyota and it still runs like a top, or make sure to flush the tranny in the Ford every 15k to keep it running.
Now for the Korean vehicles, what good is a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty if the vehicle is sitting in the shop for warranty work constantly instead of being able to drive?
I agree with who said about current Toyota vehicles of today. They quit making quality vehicles when they redesigned the pickup (Hilux to most of you, and Jeromy Clark ) and came out with the Tacoma POS.
I have a reason to hate jap. cars but after seeing some of the posts in this thread....
*slowly backs off*
Well, I will say SOMETHING. If I were to be driving a skyline or a supra or something else out of japan when I got run into during a race in my Audi A4, I would have been DEAD. or at least a lot worse off than just having a cut on my foot. (a GT2 at about 120kph into me)
Plus, working on one is like.... I can't think of any nice way to put this so I just won't say it.
The only jap cars that I can think of that just won't die are some of the '80s models. (note the Top Gear episode of trying to kill one)
That was a Toyota pickup truck, such as the one I describe in the post above yours.
I have after someone made fun of my "rice burner" asked if he could do this with his vehicle, and floored the throttle for well over a minute while the tach showed the engine bouncing at the 7500 rpm limiter.
I have said "can you do this..." and downshifted it into 2nd gear at 60 mph and drove for some time while the rpms bounced off the 7500 rpm rev limiter.
I have launched my truck on a railroad crossing that was in the middle of a hill, thus the road leveled off for the railroad, then ascended again.
I have launched my truck on a hill climb playing around offroad to which I probably got 3 or 4 feet of air from the bump I hadn't noticed.I have driven it for 84,000 miles with only changing the oil once and never running antifreeze in it.
I have after a weekend of heavy 4wheeling and staying at a friend's house, found out that the first day I arrived in the extremely cold weather we had, all the oil ran out past the seals somewhere and was sitting on the side of the road where I parked the first day, but didn't park there the rest of the weekend. We did some pretty abusive 4wheeling over that 2 days, including yanking his truck out from being swamped in a mudhole up to his doorhandles. I guess you could call that an oil change, since I stopped on the way home and added 5 quarts of oil.
I have hit a deer twice at 60 mph, ripped the front end off, and welded a new front end on from junkyard parts. Both times the truck would have been a writeoff had I carried insurance on it. The repair was nothing more than a slap-together job.
I have done complete 360's with the handbrake with the 31 inch oversized off-road tires that I had on it from a moderate speed without flipping it over.
I had spent the 8 years that I owned it heavily 4wheeling it around over rocks, through mud, across rivers as deep as a few inches above my 31 inch tires, trail riding, hill climbing, and snow drifting.
And finally, since selling it in 2004 with 189,000 miles on it, I have seen it still driving around any time I was up north visiting the brother-in-law or riding the bike. After all that I did to it, it still ran perfectly fine when I sold it and I assume still runs perfectly fine.
Also note that, in the 8 years I heavily abused it, the only thing other than normal maintenance items (read one clutch at 150,000 miles and new front brakes every 50,000 miles like clockwork) I had to rebuild the starter at the tune of $11.95, which I got a discount from a friend that brought the cost down to around $8.
That story sounds familiar...
My dad has his 1966 Chevy G10 van that he fixed up when he bought it (in about 1970) and then put the 292 inline 6 in it (biggest torque moster) in 1972. Ever since then it has had 1 paintjob, brakes have been done when needed, oil changed every 2000-2500 miles, tires when they were either rotted off or cooked off doing some burnouts and donuts, a fan belt replaced when rotted out, greased a couple times a year, and the seals and bearings when they could no longer do their job. The newest addition is a new exhaust pipe from the muffler back because of rust.
This van has been to the moon, back, and is half way there again (distance wise) and most of those miles is with a helluva lot of weight in it AND behind it. But considering how much it has been used and the lack of having to replace parts is amazing. It is still going today. I could walk outside right now, start it, and drive it a long distance without have to worry about ANYTHING... well.. except running out of fuel.
If you take good care of a vehicle, it will last you longer that you can imagine.
If you sonsider a live axle the best technology, sure. An icon, definetly (mostly due to the Initial D manga and Anime and a few of them in D1), but it's not much of a technological boundary breaking car. Cheap, quite powerfull for the time and for the 'small' 1,6 engine and RWD.