You're right, it was a mistake since you're unable to accept the fact that other people are free to do what they want: drift, oval, cruise, race, whatever, and they paid for it. If this damages you sorry, but freedom is more important to me than the needs of a single person who criticises a technical side because it renders LFS more suitable for some specific needs you dislike...
You're right, it was a mistake since you're unable to accept the fact that other people are free to do what they want: drift, oval, cruise, race, whatever, and they paid for it. If this damages you sorry, but freedom is more important to me than the needs of a single person who criticises a technical side because it renders LFS more suitable for some specific needs you dislike...
Freedom, as is Democracy, is overrated.
I'd pay another $50 for Devs sanctioning cruise servers and limit ovals and drift.
It's a bloody shame that all these LFS fanboys will fight anyone who mentions rF and other sims, yet the majority doesn't even use LFS for what makes it so perfect.
When was the last time some of you raced LX, RAC or FZ5 online without that being a bloody cruise or drift server? How about a race that was more the 10 laps?
The beauty of LFS to me is not in the FOX or GTR hotlapping on AS or BL.
You can do that in GT4.
The main reason why I like CTRA is the fact that it's gotten people to race on different tracks with non-mainstream cars. Something more servers should look into.
As far as inSim; it's a good way if allowing 3rd party mods to interact with LFS.
It's the software on the other side that's making inSIM a Cruise tool, not inSIM itself.
I'd pay another $50 for Devs sanctioning cruise servers and limit ovals and drift.
It's a bloody shame that all these LFS fanboys will fight anyone who mentions rF and other sims, yet the majority doesn't even use LFS for what makes it so perfect.
When was the last time some of you raced LX, RAC or FZ5 online without that being a bloody cruise or drift server? How about a race that was more the 10 laps?
The beauty of LFS to me is not in the FOX or GTR hotlapping on AS or BL.
You can do that in GT4.
The main reason why I like CTRA is the fact that it's gotten people to race on different tracks with non-mainstream cars. Something more servers should look into.
As far as inSim; it's a good way if allowing 3rd party mods to interact with LFS.
It's the software on the other side that's making inSIM a Cruise tool, not inSIM itself.
Analogy - You put in a new door and blame it for the people who walk through.
I don't have any problem with people doing what they like despite what you think, and despite what I think. But anyway thanks for suggesting good ways to achieve different kinds of bankruptcy, such hints are always appreciated because you know what not to do.
No other than the tagline at www.lfs.net:
"Live for Speed - online racing simulator"
That being said, like a lot of things (especially games), people can and will do whatever they want with it.
That being said, InSim (much like modding for FPS games) allows dedicated folks to extend LFS, to some degree, to be what they want it to be.
"Live for Speed - online racing simulator"
That being said, like a lot of things (especially games), people can and will do whatever they want with it.
That being said, InSim (much like modding for FPS games) allows dedicated folks to extend LFS, to some degree, to be what they want it to be.
Q: Insim, what has it done to us?
A: Unfortunately, 9 cruise servers
A: Unfortunately, 9 cruise servers
They'd probably be there without Insim too. They'd jsut be less fun for the people that enjoy them I think (not me).
Without Insim we wouldn't have LFSlapper, CTRA, and many more. Don't see why anyone could think it's a bad thing.
And you care because of???
All you do at race servers is wreck
any need to ruin the thread?
forgot about CTRA...yeh, i like that, Insim is good, we wouldnt have had lx competition otherwise
Lol, i really don´t understand that "what insim has done to us (esp. cruise)" view. It´s so... you blame a recently invented game for holding people away from the game you like? Aren´t you talking about the way people spent their free time?
Imagine someone makes it possible to play chess in World of Warcraft. I don´t see why people who are not interested in chess would now start playing it in WoW. Still you would blame the game for keeping players away from raids... i don´t think anyone has some sort of right to tell people how they should spent their free time. you invent a game, those who like it will play it, those who don´t will play other games...
enjoy the game you like!
P.S. if you are looking for races longer then 10 laps, you should think about joining a league (as mentioned earlier). those races normally go at least 1 hour.
Imagine someone makes it possible to play chess in World of Warcraft. I don´t see why people who are not interested in chess would now start playing it in WoW. Still you would blame the game for keeping players away from raids... i don´t think anyone has some sort of right to tell people how they should spent their free time. you invent a game, those who like it will play it, those who don´t will play other games...
enjoy the game you like!
P.S. if you are looking for races longer then 10 laps, you should think about joining a league (as mentioned earlier). those races normally go at least 1 hour.
Cruise servers are great, they suck the idiots away from the real racing servers. The only injustice is the lack of people who want to race (combos other than the usual 3).
injustice? ok ... so who do you blame for that? :nerd:
:nerd:I suppose. I just don't want everyone hating me here.
I have no objection to cruise servers if that is what you are asking.
I have no problem with cruise servers. As Bob said they do offer a play pen to keep certain individuals away from troubling proper servers.
It must be remembered, however, that LFS is a racing simulator. The racers, drifters and cruisers all bought a racing simulator. The drift community doesn't really seem to have a problem with the way LFS is developing, because drifting IRL doesn't need special tires or silly angles of lock or coloured smoke and I think the majority of requests for said items don't come from the better drifters.
Unfortunatley cruisers do seem to be putting up a constant objection to the development of LFS. It seems they've finally accepted (or at least shut up about) the loss of a reset without fixing damage, which has had a hugely positive effect on the quality of racing and also have large objections to the notion that LFS is a racing simulator and some day the road cars and their drivers may become more suitably attired in safety gear for racing round a race track than a Halfords car park.
It must be remembered, however, that LFS is a racing simulator. The racers, drifters and cruisers all bought a racing simulator. The drift community doesn't really seem to have a problem with the way LFS is developing, because drifting IRL doesn't need special tires or silly angles of lock or coloured smoke and I think the majority of requests for said items don't come from the better drifters.
Unfortunatley cruisers do seem to be putting up a constant objection to the development of LFS. It seems they've finally accepted (or at least shut up about) the loss of a reset without fixing damage, which has had a hugely positive effect on the quality of racing and also have large objections to the notion that LFS is a racing simulator and some day the road cars and their drivers may become more suitably attired in safety gear for racing round a race track than a Halfords car park.
They've finally accepted it because they coded a feature that they can send themselves to the pits for a set amount of "fix it up" fee....
lol Alex Leave Halfords out of this argument please
You could have said Tesco's or something...... BTW can you go shopping on a cruise server ?
They're still in progress afaik...
The handicap system is great for a smoother multiclass racing experience - something that many users have been asking for. Cruising isn't "allowed" by an app - from what I read its rules and whatever other mechanisms are just co-ordinated by an app.
Insim, outsim and, the latest addition, outgauge have all provided ways to extend LFS. The ingenuity of each extension is down to the developer and the actual usefulness or appeal of each such extension is ultimately judged by the end-users and the popularity it gains. If something ends up being popular, then quite obviously there was a gap for it to fill.
Zommy, why are you complaining about Insim in cruise servers and insim in other servers such as CTRA
insim adds new features to the game, if the devs added custom configs to work with lfs that allow you to make buttons, welcome messages etc it would put more work in the devs hands and it would take longer to release patches which i'm sure everyone doesnt want
so thats pretty much one of the main reasons they done it, its so everyone can use their imagination while creating a team/cruise server
Insim was a great idea, why complain about it when your team is running 3 insim servers?
It is possible to get insim to comunicate with a website database as TC have a reporting system that runs in the server, you can enter who you would like to report and it is added to the database for all server admins to look at
this shows that you can do so much with insim, its all about learning how to code and which fields you must follow
If people dont like insim servers there are many servers which just run a normal race and normal cars yes they may run insim but nothing that will restrict you to what you really want to do, yes they do restrict you to cars but the main reason that is, is the server setup the host had restricted what cars are allowed to be used.
insim adds new features to the game, if the devs added custom configs to work with lfs that allow you to make buttons, welcome messages etc it would put more work in the devs hands and it would take longer to release patches which i'm sure everyone doesnt want
so thats pretty much one of the main reasons they done it, its so everyone can use their imagination while creating a team/cruise server
Insim was a great idea, why complain about it when your team is running 3 insim servers?
It is possible to get insim to comunicate with a website database as TC have a reporting system that runs in the server, you can enter who you would like to report and it is added to the database for all server admins to look at
this shows that you can do so much with insim, its all about learning how to code and which fields you must follow
If people dont like insim servers there are many servers which just run a normal race and normal cars yes they may run insim but nothing that will restrict you to what you really want to do, yes they do restrict you to cars but the main reason that is, is the server setup the host had restricted what cars are allowed to be used.
i say they are not idiots but underage guys without license to drive a car in real life. Perhaps pretending to be grown ups. I can see why they think its fun.
And some grown ups just go there to chill, but i'm sure they are a very small minority.
all in all, like you said, cruising servers are always full and race servers are empty. These days I login to LFS, I browse the servers, I stare at my 250€ G25, and leave again because no ppl racing, just cruising.
this wasn't about cruise servers. PM brad and he will tell you everything.
I've really like this thread locked/deleted now.
naw we're not done. I think that insim has done a good thing for drifting because of the points system. If drifting stats were recorded as thoroughly as race stats, would it become more legitimate in racer's eyes?
That system is really pointless imo... The mechanism of giving points is really strange. Sometimes when you just throw the car into the corner it gives out a lot more points than a good clean passing of the corner, some happends when you barely catching the car etc...
But on topic, InSim is making a lot more good than bad (whats the bad point?)
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