I knew that ^^
Ok, if the drifters get 45 degrees, what's next?
'We want it more extreme give us 54 degrees?'

Please actually quote my text in which youre replying to. Because I havent suggested LFS should ignore drifters. Im just stating pure fact on what the game is sold as. If thats too much for you to bare then I am sorry, I didnt make the LFS homepage. I didnt name the game and I sure as didnt design it or set the values of the lock myself. Did I?

Im just telling you exactly what LFS says on the tin.

It's the same as medicine here we go again
-'medicine?'
--'yes medicine.'

You have a headache...
You use something which is made for something else (e.g. for your throat(?)), but it does work...
You ask:
please change the recipe, because then it would be better against headache...

But, it may (not sure) have not as good results for your throat...

Wow, so much off-topic spam here. I haven't yet seen one intelligent argument against the request. Lots of people who have no idea and just want to fight. Is this how you treat your fellow members? Sad.

Well, like I said in my last post (before the thread was spam-tsunami'd) - I thought about it and I've realised it's not something that would actually affect me (or other racers), so why make a big deal out of it?

45 degrees probably wouldn't make any difference to me as there aren't any corners in LFS that are that slow or that sharp. Hell, bring it on! If it stops idiotic OT spam in threads like this, fantastic :up:

Seems some people have a knee-jerk "No, sod off" reaction to anything drift-related and can't help but get into brawls. I admit to that to a certain extent because some things seem too pointless to include in this game, but 9 degrees of steering lock, hmmm... It might not be realistic (neither are our "road" cars), but is it really worth 9 pages of circular arguments, OT bullshit with a few well thought-out posts thrown in?

amen hankstar

kamkorPL! check your PMs!

Who wants do drift with 45 degrees ,
download old S2 demo version..

http://gamershell.com/download_8827.shtml

I think that if you like to see steering angle more than 36 degrees you have to start looking real cars, not these modern plastic toys.

Toyota Crown 1963-1966 38 degrees
Datsun 1000 (Datsun finn) 1967-1969 45 degrees
Toyota Corolla 1967-1969 38 degrees
Volvo Amazon 1963-1965 40 degrees
BMW 320 1975 41,2 degrees
Datsun 180B 38 degrees
Datsun 1600 SSS 38 degrees
Datsun 160J 43 degrees
Ford Taunus V6 38,5 degrees
Mazda 1200 45 degrees

Well I guess that I won't list them all, that would take whole night, as can be seen there has been plenty of real cars with more steering lock.

But I'm not sure if modern cars do have much more than 36 and I think 36 is ok for drifting, at least for my not so good skills, however I like more from older cars in general so why not put something old and good in :P

For drifting there is always that right foot that can be used to control angle if you run out of lock

Nissan Silvias come out standard with 43 degrees lock.

My old Toyota Sprinter or AE86 for some of you takumi kids had over 45 degrees of lock with the addition of power steering arms put onto the non power steering rack....short arms created greater lock.

For people that really do tinker around with cars in real life not just play games you will realise a bit more lock would be great nothing stupid but 45 to 50 degrees would be great.....i know one thing i aim for with all the cars i purchase to use for drift purposes is getting the most amount of lock i can.

It seems weird how u can adjust camber to how ever u want when thats not on a most standard production car but you cant adjust lock?

All my cars in game have settings that relate to what i have used on my personal cars in some point of time....i find it easier that way.

This image i have attached is off my lock before i had power steering arms on left and after on the right. But i sold my AE86 a couple months back.

- Luke

if you can find a car with STOCK steering with more than 36 degrees of lock (afaik, cabs dont count!), Scawen will add it!

Quote from Jakg :

if you can find a car with STOCK steering with more than 36 degrees of lock (afaik, cabs dont count!), Scawen will add it!

Quote :

Toyota Crown 1963-1966 38 degrees
Datsun 1000 (Datsun finn) 1967-1969 45 degrees
Toyota Corolla 1967-1969 38 degrees
Volvo Amazon 1963-1965 40 degrees
BMW 320 1975 41,2 degrees
Datsun 180B 38 degrees
Datsun 1600 SSS 38 degrees
Datsun 160J 43 degrees
Ford Taunus V6 38,5 degrees
Mazda 1200 45 degrees

There is more than one

Sssshhhhhh!

i wonder if he will add it now

The 2006 renault master has a max lock of over 36 degres. It`s about 42-43. I know because my father owns one . so .. if renault done it . maybe the devs can make it two.

Quote :

Toyota Crown 1963-1966 38 degrees
Datsun 1000 (Datsun finn) 1967-1969 45 degrees
Toyota Corolla 1967-1969 38 degrees
Volvo Amazon 1963-1965 40 degrees
BMW 320 1975 41,2 degrees
Datsun 180B 38 degrees
Datsun 1600 SSS 38 degrees
Datsun 160J 43 degrees
Ford Taunus V6 38,5 degrees
Mazda 1200 45 degrees

Fair enough, you've established that such cars have existed in the past. For My Information: how many of those cars in the second half of that list are less than 30 years old? Or even less than 20? Certainly none of them are in production anymore, except perhaps the Taurus (anyone know the max lock on the new Taurus?). LFS certainly doesn't model anything that looks remotely 1960s or 1970s inspired. 1980s yes, in the case of the XRT, but mid to late 1980s, possibly even early '90s. I'm not having a stab for the sake of being a bastard, I just think Jakg was after a list of RL cars that are still in production, or at least were produced during the time period which we all presume LFS cars represent.

Further to that point, since most people drift the XRT and popular opinion on the XRT's design influence is that it's a combination of two or more of the RX7, Starion, Porsche 944 & 3000GT (interior), can someone provide the maximum lock value for any of those cars? I think that would be a lot more on-topic and relevant than a long list of pre-1980s cars that just happened to have high maximum lock. As an example of similar logic, I could ask for LFS cars to have wooden spoked wheels because the Model T Ford had them...

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I got my s2 license only yesterday and the first thing i noticed is that the xrt lacks a dori dori steering angle .

I cannot understand why your are asking for the original steering angle of the car the xrt is (perhaps) based on. A Starion/944/rx7 doesn't have adjustable suspensions or adjustable brakes or something. There are after market suspensions for the rx7 for example but there are also after market steering components that allow a greater steering angle as well.

The fact to the matter is that many people want to have more steering angle and nobody is forced to have more steering angle cause is it adjustable.

On top of that it's a minor change which doesn't require a lot of effort.

So I cannot understand why one should refuse this request.

So please give me more steering angle and even more fun playing lfs.

The thing is, its an XRT. It's not an RX-7, neither a Starion. This is an original car. If you're an S2 racer, then why r u still a demo racer? Log in wif your S2 account, or the admins will be here with a pair of handcuffs and a six-pack booze.

Guess you'r right shitty cookie thingy

The FD3S Mazda RX7 came stock with 42o steering lock, if I am not mistaken.

Cheers,
Matt.

I don't see any of those in the car select menu

scawen, eric. please reply to this thread and put and end to it.... the same thing over and over again.....

+1 for more lock from me

I know this is an old post and all but anyways
my wifes 03 Taurus has 38* lock on it ..

+1 for 45*lock


getting s2 and g25 soon

-1 big time.
It`s allready good as it is.

agreed