just use my racer name, which im using ever since i got my licence btw My lfs user name, well lets say it appeared out of a decent mood

Maybe another barrier for me but maybe not. Fact is the story had a really funny beginning or shall i say rather stupid? Out of coincidence they discover this place exactly 100 years after the last contact and the tunnel down to the pyramid has been created by the predator vessel 24h before the team arrived? Mother alien who is like what, a thousand years old and is getting little baby aliens only every hundred years or so? Not to mention the mean jackass penguin For me this just spoiled the rest of the movie and i wasnt able to take it as "serious" as the classics.

I really hope AVP will be a hit

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Judging Scorcese's films against each other isn't really fair, but then judging them against other peoples' isn't fair either A Scorcese flick which isn't quite as good as another Scorcese flick is still going to mash most other directors. Put Kundun and Taxi Driver next to each other and one might destroy the other, but put either of them next to anything by Michael Bay or M Night Shyamalan and watch the blood fly.

Well, comparing him to Michael Bay and Shyamalan is softballing him a bit. Gangs and The Aviator were both hyperinflated, overblown vanity projects (though at least Gangs had Daniel Day-Lewis to make up for it). The Departed was serviceable but suffered from the same affliction--and that's not even mentioning that it too is a Hollywood remake, and one that's inferior to its earlier counterpart.

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Look at the horrors Spielberg's inflicted on us since Schindler: The Terminal, AI (started by the great Stanley Kubrick and Disney-fied by Spielberg, what an utter waste), Minority Report, War Of The Worlds. It's a shame because for a while he really was one of my favourites! The Indy Jones films are awesome, DUEL is still one of my favourite films ever, Jurassic Park (don't start me on the sequels) & Schindler's List were brilliant, Close Encounters Of The Third Kind still stands the test of time as a SF classic (never saw ET but I'm told it's very heartwarming ), but there just seems to be something missing from Spielberg's recent stuff. Haven't seen Munich. If that is indeed a good flick, it'll be just a blip on the recent Spielberg radar as far as I'm concerned.

As I mentioned, let's agree to forget that The Terminal ever happened. A.I. could/should have been great, and would have been at least very good if it had ended with the kid trapped under the ferris wheel. War of the Worlds is a great adventure movie, and the people who bitch about the ending just aren't getting it. SPR was a landmark war film, though the framing device is lame and hamfisted. Minority Report would have been much better if it had stuck to its source (and if it hadn't also suffered from a stereotypical "Spielberg ending"), but it was by no means bad. Quite enjoyable to me, in fact.

And as for ironic... well, kinda.

It clearly wasn't meant as a comedy, but they had to have been aware of the camp factor that was being pumped into it. It's a b-movie through and through, and it's as funny as the best ones tend to be.

I'm with your previous comment on Spielberg, especially regarding Private Ryan, AI and Minority Report. Great ideas, shot brilliantly (of course) & acted well, just tainted by Spielberg's usual sentimentality and lack of courage to give the audience an ending that could possibly make them uncomfortable (i.e. think a bit).

For some slight balance, I just remembered some more Spielberg moments I loved: the Back To The Future films! I thought Catch Me If You Can was a pretty sweet flick too He sure isn't all bad, but sometimes he explodes my schlock-o-meter when it isn't really necessary.

Enjoyed the trailer for Cloverfield, and its interesting to see the Blair Witch conceit (found video footage) transferred to a metropolitan setting. Interesting too, to see New York being destroyed again and yet another American film dramatising that country's invasion neurosis.

Ultimately though, I'm guessing it'll make great cultural studies papers, but cockroach racing will be a better night out (at least there's some point to betting on the outcome...)

"Fanboys" might be worth looking forward to if the fight between Trekkies and Star Wars fans was the entire content of the movie... would love to see that as a proper bloodbath.

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well i think Scorcese's "Gangs of New York" and "the Departed" where two very nice movies actually. Havend seen the rest since casino exept these two but i believe they have simular quality...

Strike out "The Departed"... Apart from changing the names of people and putting it somewhere else (the States), it's a 1:1 copy of "Internal Affairs"...

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Strike out "The Departed"... Apart from changing the names of people and putting it somewhere else (the States), it's a 1:1 copy of "Internal Affairs"...

strike out? What you said might be true but that doesn't changes the fact that "the Departed" is a Scorsese movie. And i can't imagine thats its a 1:1 copy but i haven't seen the other one yet.

http://us.imdb.com/find?s=all& ... l+Affairs&x=8&y=7

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strike out? What you said might be true but that doesn't changes the fact that "the Departed" is a Scorsese movie. And i can't imagine thats its a 1:1 copy but i haven't seen the other one yet.

http://us.imdb.com/find?s=all& ... l+Affairs&x=8&y=7

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338564/
You can imagine what you want, I watched both and it is exactly how I stated... He just crossed names out (including the original writer's/director's), replaced them with others and gave it another title (hell, the original title even was the work title!), therefore I (or anybody else for that matter) can't possibly say it's his film...

Well, the context is changed (Irish gangs in Boston) and it's much longer and more ornate, but in essence all the best scenes in the movie are ripped from IA, and all the added stuff is extraneous fluff.

IA is a far superior film, IMO.

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338564/

You can imagine what you want, I watched both and it is exactly how I stated... He just crossed names out (including the original writer's/director's), replaced them with others and gave it another title (hell, the original title even was the work title!), therefore I (or anybody else for that matter) can't possibly say it's his film...

oh really?

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0338564/
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0099850/

at "the Departed" Siu Fai Mak is clearly mentioned as writer who was also responsible for "Mou gaan dou" but it seems to me that both earned the rights from an earlier movie called "Internal Affairs". So after checking your link which refers to "Mou gaan dou" im not really sure what point you are trying to make.

Infernal Affairs is unrelated to Internal Affairs.

The Departed is a direct remake of Infernal Affairs.

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at "the Departed" Siu Fai Mak is clearly mentioned as writer who was also responsible for "Mou gaan dou" [...] So after checking your link which refers to "Mou gaan dou" im not really sure what point you are trying to make.

Point? Every idiot thinks it's a film by Scorsese, when he just (very badly) copied a perfectly good film, just like Van Sant did with "Psycho"... They did credit the original writers at imdb (for fairness, I suppose), but can you find their names anywhere on this? Or any other poster or box-art? No? There you go, next time get all the facts, not just guess...

Irritable much? No reason to insult people, this is a chat about movies FFS.

Scorcese remaking Internal Affairs in English is not at all like Van Sant xeroxing Psycho. There's an important difference between remaking a film for a different audience and completely re-shooting a film with no alterations to anything (the Psycho wank is the only one of its kind iirc). Western directors remaking non-English films isn't exactly a new thing, or a necessarily bad thing - Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai was remade into that classic western The Magnificent Seven and both films are hailed as classics in their own right, despite the plot parallels. I think Scorcese did a great job transferring the IA story and keeping its compelling elements, unlike many people who remake non-English/old films and either lose something vital from the feel of the film (many US remakes of Japanese horror/suspense films come immediately to mind) or make the new version campy, cliched and totally unwatchable (The Italian Job rears its ugly head again).

bbman: you seem to be more bitter than the director of the original one.

"Andrew Lau, the co-director of Infernal Affairs, who was interviewed by Hong Kong newspaper Apple Daily, said, "Of course I think the version I made is better, but the Hollywood version is pretty good too." / wikipedia

I could name Scorsese as my favourite director but I haven't "yet" seen The Departed, so I don't have opinion but I think most of the bashing is just pointless. Infernal Affairs I have and I think it was the "most American" Asian movie I've seen. I'd rate it 4/5.

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anything with Ben Affleck

I don't think anyone in Hollywood (including critics) expected this.

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I don't think anyone in Hollywood (including critics) expected this.

Oh crap and there I was thinking this emo thing can't go worse

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

Infernal Affairs is unrelated to Internal Affairs.

The Departed is a direct remake of Infernal Affairs.

thanks, good to know

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Point? Every idiot thinks it's a film by Scorsese, when he just (very badly) copied a perfectly good film, just like Van Sant did with "Psycho"... They did credit the original writers at imdb (for fairness, I suppose), but can you find their names anywhere on this? Or any other poster or box-art? No? There you go, next time get all the facts, not just guess...

Regarding your comments you seems to have a problem with me in a personal nature (i got it, just checked your post history, one of them anti oval fraction guys, hate the track - hate the players eh? illepall). Just in case there is a next time, i prefer to either ignore you or put you on the list. Besides, it IS a film by Scorsese but the story is INDEED from someone else. I never denied this did i?

JTbo: Emo thing...? That movie is about kidnapping / missing child or something like that. Trailer looked pretty promising when I saw it while ago. A movie acclaimed by critics is not what I expected from one of the slimiest actors in Hollywood.

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JTbo: Emo thing...? That movie is about kidnapping / missing child or something like that. Trailer looked pretty promising when I saw it while ago. A movie acclaimed by critics is not what I expected from one of the slimiest actors in Hollywood.

Modern movies concentrate on human emotions, feelings. It is incredible how much time they do spend on squeezing every feeling out from every scene, unlike movies at 80's where they actually managed to do things.

Now I believe situation is this as modern teenagers are all emotion driven, so they make movies for these emo teens.

I personally just get bored with such and dig good old 80's movies to watch instead, they might lack a bit of plot and such, but at least they don't spent half movie talking about how wrong it was to have blue cup for coffee

Right, maybe this grumpy old man just needs to get his coat (got older yesterday, darn these years go fast)

JTbo, I personally hate those movies, that's why the only movies that appeal to me are the quick easy laughs, because even though they follow a very basic plotline, they manage to keep me entertained with the dialogue and the fact that they are driving Nascars against gay Frenchies...

Haven't seen Gone Baby Gone yet, but it's supposed to be a pretty damn good film. And apparently Casey Affleck gives his 2nd award-worthy performance of the year in it (after the Jesse James film). Maybe Ben'll stay behind the camera and let Casey be the one to stand in front of it.

We can all hope, right?

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Modern movies concentrate on human emotions, feelings.

Drama has concentrated on pretty much that since Ancient Greece...

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Now I believe situation is this as modern teenagers are all emotion driven, so they make movies for these emo teens.

Teens go watch Spiderman III, Pirates of Caribbean and crap like that. I don't really get what you're trying to say and what does this Gone Baby Gone has to do with emo teens at all. It's just casual drama movie with a crime/mystery plot (saying this without seeing the movie). I think you're trying to be smarter than you think. I have a feeling you don't actually watch movies a lot?

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I personally just get bored with such and dig good old 80's movies to watch instead, they might lack a bit of plot and such, but at least they don't spent half movie talking about how wrong it was to have blue cup for coffee

You just basicly wanted to say you personally like 80's Van Damme action flicks and you're too impatient to watch anything else? Otherwise I don't get it. And movie made in 198x is not even really old. Sometimes it tells more about the viewer than the movies.

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Drama has concentrated on pretty much that since Ancient Greece...

I hate drama movies

And today all they produce is drama or drama labeled as action

For me movies are pure entertainment that is not meant to be anything more, just put brains to shelf and enjoy with good laughs.

PS. Plan 9 beats any modern movie hands down

well, without pointing at someone in particular i just wanted to mention that there are two things which are completely worthless having and argue about. Generalizations and the good old question of taste.

I like all sorts of movies and in general it depends on my mood. My favorites are surely those with sci-fi & action components but once in a while i like to watch a rather stupid movie or shall i say, something funny where i do not actually need to use my brain as i would do it with thrillers, dramas, you name it. There are some really good movies out there and i hate to prejudge a movie by its cover, title or some odd critics. I agree that there is also a lot of junk available. My sensors are quite good adjusted for this stuff but once in a while even those can fail and i probably would have missed some real good movies if i wouldn't have watched them later out of coincidence or so.