Hacked cards, hacked boxes etc, you can get them, can't see the point TBH, you can pay almost as much as 4 months paid veiwing to get them only to have them fail a month in.
Sure, if you get a big enough, motorised dish, the right CAM's, decoders etc you can pretty much pick up anything.
The site mentioned in the first post is NOT for "normal" satelitte/cable TV, its for getting it on your PC, big difference.
Dan,