There you go. And FYI, Im not "struggling" with the new patch, in fact, I have tested it again today and its not as bad as I thought in my first 5 minutes with it... that said, yes. Im disappointed by it. And I like to express my disappointment.
Its the balance between how much realism you can include, before the driving becomes second to the chores of racing.
i.e. Meeting Sponsers, buying safety equipment, driving to the track, checking the fluids, making yourself bulemic to shed that extra pound a la Coulthard, hitting on the pit-babes, etc are all well and good, but making you simulate them would add nothing to the experience. They would drag the whole experience down, cept maybe for the pit-babes....
Scavier has a vision of the purest racing simulator they can make. That's why they do what they do. They have the freedom to do it at their own pace, with their own priorities to that end.
I hope that kinda tells you a bit why they do what they do...
Well lets go for a very likely situation. You have spun and flipped your UF1 into the middle of the track, after you swerved around trying to work out how to change gear. Everyone else who fully understands the changes, and wants to have a fun race with their friends on a realistic racing simulation, but one that they don't have to spend 2 hours in the pit garage pushing buttons to start playing, well they are coming to lap you. Since you can't get your car back onto its wheels, and there is no safety car, then the obvious thing to do is include a button to clear your car from the track. But wait...the devs have listened to you, so that button does not exist. Oh dear...
Interesting.. some of them yes and some of them no. And I'm free to accept them and to shout my mouth. No. Its a work in progress, granted, the only game that has taken longer time to develop is (TMK) Duke Nukem Forever, but here at least we can try (wait, we even have to pay) for an alpha version.
Exactly in your opinion (and most forum members for that matter). IMO there are things that require at least the same attention and NO ONE complain about them...
LOL! I have NEVER said anything about I want it to be not realistic at all!!! I WANT A SIMULATION, but also the option to turn off some characteristics (like for example clutch damage when I don't have a controller with clutch.
Then you are contradicting yourself. Why custom views? Why Shift+P? Why (etc etc etc)?
What i mean by that is just because we have custom views or Shift+P. That is no excuse for the devs to say "alright that's not realistic, so we wont add clutch damage, engine damage, or ANY DAMAGE for that matter".
while I understand this is my weakest point in the argument I will try my best.
Shift+P is not realistic. There is no avoiding this. It gets around the realism of needing to drive to the pits after a race/crash/whatever. On the otherhand, shift+p is not used while racing. It provides no advantage to anyone using it at pitting moves you to last place. I feel that no matter how advanced a simulation becomes it is still just that: a mathematical representation real events and for our case it's on our PC's.
Perhaps along this argument you want to virtually turn the knobs on your adjustible shocks and wrench on those pesky roll bars and magically fabricate almost infinitely variable ration gearboxes. After all, this is a simulation.
Getting OT a bit i guess. This is a racing sim. The effects of shfit+p are unrelated to the outcome of any semi-organized race on any server. thats the best I got. Perhaps a more señor member (:razz could explain for me what I'm trying to say
I can't wait until to see your first post when S3 comes out.
"OMG I hit the back of a car when braking and now my engine goes all hot and dies?! WTF! They left in the chat system, and broken glass doesn't go in my eyes when I crash, so why make engines fail!11!?"
the devs should all handbuild supercomputers optimized to run LFS and simulate EVERY aspect of EVERYTHING on earth then deliver them, not unlike santa, to all registered S2 users
"wtf?!?! This butterfly on the otherside of the world flapped its wings and now I iz in a hurricane while driving FE CLUB!!!!111!!1"
/perhaps unnecisary but just havin fun
in the end, LFS is a prgram on your computer. Come December 21, 2112, shift+p wont matter
Congratulations on your first ever post on this forum, after being signed up for over a year. Since you have not paid for the XRT, I don't think you can claim to own it. Back into your little stereotype box with you methinks.
oh i just meant, the game is a sim. So any game labelled a sim to me should be as realistic as possible. the more realistic the game is i'd say the more "normal" it is, not hardcore, just real
Once you've paid for something, then you can claim that you own it and be entitled to complain about it and expect people to listen - if your complaint is actually valid. Since you're trying what's basically a free sample, I'm afraid it's just tough luck mate
On topic: I'm surprised to see such strong resistance from an experienced licensed user. I have a two-pedal wheel setup and I've had to re-adjust to a few things myself but I welcome it. I won't repeat other peoples' arguments - not least because they don't seem to be sinking in - but I will say Patch Y is one the best forward steps this game has made since some friends turned me on to it in 2003.