The only FF wheel I've used extensively is the one in the Daytona USA arcade machine - which believe it or not is a 15 year old arcade game.

The force feedback in that system was very powerful and fairly quiet (just a low "hummmmmm"). I did buy a used act labs force rs wheel and the noise the wheel made when turning was awful. But since it broke after using it only a couple of days I can't really compare it to the old Daytona wheel.

So I guess I was wondering how far mass produced FF wheels have come in the last 15 years. How does the G25 compare to say commercial quality arcade wheels?

Arcade wheels have to take an unreasonable amount of abuse and are made to cope with it.
The G25 is not built for that sort of use - but then you're not going to kick or thump it when you get annoyed with yourself are you?

But as a mass market wheel for the home user it pretty much hits the button.
It looks OK, feels OK, and is accurate with strong effects and is tough enough for the job.
Its a bit noisy, a bit notchy (not totally smooth) but extremely good value for money IMO.

My only real complaint is that there are not enough buttons on the wheel itself.

Buy one - you aint gonna get better without spending a lot more cash for the wheel alone.

The build quality is no where near as good as the arcade machines. If you don't intend to jump up and down on them the wheel and pedals should be fine, judging by forum threads the shifter is another story though.

Yeah I understand arcade wheels are made to withstand abuse, but besides that I was hoping the latest and greatest mass market wheels would be as quiet and powerful as arcade wheels built 15 years ago.

Then again, most daytona machines have the audio very loud - so maybe that's why I recall the FF being fairly quiet.

We cannot compare those wheel in arcade, with our personnal wheel at home, those of arcade are made to be abused, are not accurate, turn only 180 degrees, FF is maybe strong, but you're sitting in front of a big box where it easy to intall a big electric motor, and where the weight is not important

the difference between them is like day and night, Wheel is very precise, FF very strong and Precise, it doesnt make loud sound, you can have more than 4 speed, Leather wheel grip, try it and you'll buy it !!! but it sure its not made all of Metal,

the shifter is a bit fragile, but with some time you'll be able to shift rapidly without abusing of it,