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help with rear wheel drive
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help with rear wheel drive
hey guys, well i got my DFP finaly and everythings going good so far.

im looking for some good tips on driving the rear wheel drive cars like the XR GTR and the FZ50 GTR, 9/10 times i end up spinning it.

cheers in advance
#2 - garph
Don't get on the gas so hard out of turns. You can't just stamp on the throttle like you can the FWD, it just takes practice.
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#3 - samjh
Be smooth with your controls.

Go with the basics first: brake in a straight line, get your gear right, stabilise the car with a little throttle, gradually turn in, apply throttle gradually after passing the corner apex.

Look at Jenson Button's drive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... T0RKo&feature=related
Also Kimi's drive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhQSoCBaAfw
Watch their steering inputs and the listen/look at the throttle. Ignore the braking, as F1 brakes work a lot differently to normal steel brakes (in F1, you need to slam them in instead of squeezing).

Notice how both drivers don't make sudden steering inputs. Their steering is very measured. First stage is the "set", where they turn the wheel very slightly into the corner to set the car's suspension and tyres for the turn, then they positively turn the wheel into the corner, pass the corner apex, unwind very smoothly while gradually applying power. A very orthodox, consistent, and balanced method of driving.

This is the textbook method of driving, which requires more skill than the basic method I described above.

Or if you are very daring, you can set your car up to understeer, brake early, use abrupt turn-in to scrub speed, and get on the throttle a little later after passing the apex. Fernando Alonso and Robert Kubica drive like this, but it is a very peculiar style.

You don't sound like a driver who likes oversteery cars, so Michael Schumacher and Lewis Hamilton's styles probably don't suit. They like to brake deep into the corner and slide their rear end slightly to get around the apex.
I'm terrible with the RWD cars, but I'm learning.

The main thing is that you can't just stamp on the throttle like the FWD cars - even if you do this with the car pointed in a straight line, in the lower gears you will still light up the back tyres and possibly spin. As you come out of a corner, press the throttle, don't stamp on it. This feeds the power in gradually and helps stop wheelspin.

Also, you have to radically change the way you drive through corners. In FWD cars, you hit the brakes, drop the gears as quickly as you can, turn in and the moment you are past the apex, stamp on the throttle and accelerate out.

With RWD cars, you have to be much more careful as you change down, especially in the larger engined cars, only shifting down as you approach the speed appropriate for that gear otherwise the sudden engine braking can lock the back tyres.

Once you have passed the apex, give the car a tiny bit of throttle just to stop it slowing down and keep this on until the car is in a straight line again, then you can *press* the throttle (not stamp on it) and open it up to full.

Keep doing this until you can consistently drive laps without spinning. Then you can start closing the distance between the apex and applying full throttle. Try adding more and more throttle before the car is straightened out until eventually you are on full throttle almost as soon as you are past the apex. However introduce this to your driving *very slowly*. Be prepared to lose a lot of races until you get it right. Rememeber, being a bit slower but more in control out of a corner is better than a huge snaking, spinning mess that ends up with you pointing the wrong direction. As you do it more, you will find you have to apply opposite lock to counter the back-end sliding out. One thing I was unprepared for is that as the amount of throttle you use increases, you have to anticipate the oversteer and apply the opposite lock before it actually happens - I always thought it was just a reactive thing, not a pro-active thing.

Stick with it though, its very rewarding when you get it right. I've found driving the FZR on the Conedodgers 1 server (practice a bit in the 4WD FXR before you switch to the FZR) a great place to drive a RWD competitively - I find the slicks and downforce of the GTR cars makes them a lot more controllable than the lower-powered RWD road cars. Yopu also seem to get a good mix of skilled drivers to aspire to and rookie drivers to race against.
#5 - feat
Well, first day with wheel (momo) was terrible. I took a XRT Drift car like always and got an idea that i`ll be UBERPWNAGEPROMASTER, but afcourse i sucked. I pushed the pedal to metal and car spinned afcourse .. then it all started.
First i took a UF1000 and joined Cruise server (I just got S2 licence) and started to drive. It wasn`t so hard anymore, cause UF1 is FWD, but still i didn`t turned wheel enough, pushed to mutch gas etc.
Now i still cant sometimes control RWD cars, but still learning ..

Practice makes perfect.
#6 - HVS5b
Time, practice and patience my friend. Tis the only way .

Some say start on the easier RW cars to learn their wiles then move up the grades as your ability and confidence grow.

I went for the "500 laps on BL1 with FZR" as my intro to LFS, once you can control that beast and put in consistant times the other cars become pussy cats when you go to try them
That's what I do when I come back to LFS after long breaks, but with the LX6 or FO8. If you can tame those, you're sorted. Although maybe not 500 laps, I'd just stick it in practice and go til I got bored

help with rear wheel drive
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