Im using the version on the CD that came with my G25.
Its version 5.00.171. Im pretty sure its quite an old version, but i dont see any need to update as i dont have any problems with this one, and also, how exactly can a profiler change? :/
101 out game and 20% in game it what I started using, The profiler dosen't seem to make any differnce to anything, So it dosen't matter what I set anything to the wheel will not let me balence the car when it oversteers
Edit: One thing, Did you even read the post that my G/F did, With the messed up quote box?
What could I possibly of done wrong when I did exactly what you said?, The wheel was fine on other racing sims, So I don't see how it can be faulty, So what do I do when the new one comes and it dose exactly the same as this one?
This is gunna be my last post, Cause I'm just getting what I got when I asked people in rooms, Any extra helpful replies are still weclome'd, But there is still no reason why counter steer dose as good as nothing
I have noticed my wheel "whistles" (don't know a good word in english) a bit sometimes. It's almost like a loud cat miaow.
Once when i was playing hard i heard a pretty loud "whisteling" (i was using headphones), and i thought wtf was that?
Then i realised it was my wheel. Just before the whisteling came i set the ffb to 200 in game, maybe i broke something? :/
I'm really a bit worried.. maybe i have played too hard with the wheel? but i don't think so because it's made for racing enthusiasts..
Have anyone of you experienced the same thing?
EDIT: When i play with ffb on 35 and listen closely without headphones i hear pretty often a little "peep" from the wheel.
[quote=Make sure you leave the profiler open when your playing, otherwise I don't think it keeps your settings. I very well could be wrong though.[/quote]
Have used the same settings with and with out the Logitech profiler and call tell no difference
[quote=TAYLOR-MANIA;683854] Well then you must be doing something wrong if the Profiler 'doesn't make any difference to anything'. Maybe you didn't set it up correctly in the Windows Game Controllers, check the calibration or something.[/quote]
Correctly? Have tried so many different ways I wouldn't know what correctly anymore, Not that anything works, Taylor your still not reading my posts fully cause I shouldn't have to type what I've said before again, Could you try reading them again please and send a privet message,
Cause I really dislike forums, I never find any help cause all thats on any forum is if I can even find anything, Someone will started with their problem than someone else says try this, Then the first guy will say "Wasn't that but fixed it anyway", Then give no explanation, Or everyone is to eager to flame someone for the slightest typing or grammer [If this is wrong blame the spell checker, There was this or Gramme and it dosen't look spelt anybetter] mistake, Thats wrong, You don't rip on someone trying to get help, You save that for in game and pass on the outside blaring your horn ^^ [Or something like Halo or Unreal, You just keep pawning heads], This is last post, Can I ask anyone with any additional info on why when I used the same setting as people say in game and with the windows and Logitech out game, All I'm getting is try this this this, No one is properly explaining anything, So its no wonder I haven't been able to play LFS over a week after getting my G25
Again the manual and car setup guides are no good to more as they only state what things are not what to set anything
If you set the FFB very high, the wheel will give maximum resistance too early, so that anything beyond that will feel exactly the same (=maximum force). I, and others, think it's easier to "feel" what the car is doing with a lower FFB setting because it means that the force will not feel the same always. But I guess it all comes down to personal opinions.
At 100% I feel it, below 50% I dont feel 'anything'. i.e. front tyre skid.
EDIT: @ koshi
Did you check all the tabs of profiler? You can set a profile as 'default', so if you start lfs, it may use another profile, if you accidentally made it like that.
Yes I made an LFS profile and even loaded the game from the profiler but I was told not to use the Game Specific Settings by 45 nico CrAnk, I'm just get flooded by random settings that I can not do anything with
If helping me in real time, Over MSN or in game is easyier [I know real time chat is better for me] My MSN is [email protected] & my in game handle is [L.B]K_Eternium
Again I thank all who have taken time to even try to help here and in game, But its stressing me out so much I must be coming across as abit of a jerk, but to be fair I am only being as much of a jerk as I get treated like one and I appolgise to anyone who thinks I was being a dick,
Edit: When I use the below setting in the Game Specific Settings, Do I need to set the Global Device Settings to anything?
Overall Effects - 101%
Spring - 0%
Damper - 0%
Ticked Enable Centering Spring - 0%
Ticked Use Special Steering Wheel Settings
Unticked Report Combined Pedals
Having just this minute used Game Specific Setting I am getting a much better feel so I can balence the car, The only thing now is when I drift from left to right the wheel is still quite violent and hard to turn where I need to even with in game force at 20%, I set the Global Device Setting to the same as Game Specific Cause I didn't know what to do
Disable the centering spring alltogether if it's too strong... I did because I got terrible oscillations even with 0 %...
As for your drifting: Count that out for a while... First find a setting that feels alright with you, because FFB will always lag a bit behind, and relying on it you will certainly spin out... Once you found your setting, adapt your drifting to it...
Just unticked the center spring and I can't tell any differnce between them, The wheel is still hard to turn where I need to and ends up full oppersite lock
Edit:One thing, Shouldn't the wheel be hard to turn when stationary?
Edit 2:After trying it ticked and unticked at 0%, Moving to 15% ticked and unticked, Unticked at 15% I was more able to get the car round the turns, But am still having issues of it just snapping out randomly mainly between direction transitions but even a right to right corner the the front shoot into the outside wall or the tail will ether not step out or is past 45 degrees even with over 80% oppersite lock and it still dosen't steer back turning the wheel faster I think is what causes the front to shoot into the outside wall, But I dunno how anything is ment to feel, No one has ever said
So again the G25 will still not let me use my counter steer, Cause as soon as i add any the wheel swings really fast to full lock by it's self so yes Taylor that would autonomously wouldn't it?, Oh and thanks for not saying that linarcy is Wheel Turn Compensation, That would of been helpful, I still have everything exactly the same as you have all told me
So what am I ment to do?, The wheel is easy to move when not
moving and hard to move while trying to counter steer mainly when strightening the front wheels
Edit: Also about the drivers think I have 5.01.256 [From CD] and I can see no way to get 5.00.171 from anywhere, Other than that drive I have tried everything and counter steer is still useless, Can people start explaning stuff properly, If its Wheel Turn Compensation that you have to set to 1.00, Why say its called linarcy? So its no wonder I can't set it up if you all give the wrong tiltle to settings and thats with the profiler running, There is no differnce when I shut down the profiler while the game is running
Edit2: Well I have nothing else to try and at no point as anysetting from anyone been enough, Even the overral 50% Spring 10% Damperner 10 Center Spring ticked and unticked at 0% that I came up with my self, I've had it, There is no reason why my G25 will not let me use my counter steer
Well this is utter crap, Now my steering is really heavy on the turn in not just the counter steer the profiler really dosen't seam to be doing anything, So its something you've told me wrong cause I have done EXACTLY what you have all said and I'm still no closer to playing LFS since I started over a week ago have been waiting months before the G25, Yet I can still steer fine on TOCA Race Driver 3 with the in game force at 70% so I can't really be a faulty wheel, With and with out the profiler on the same settings, I just don't see why in LFS the wheel is so much harder to turn even with under 40% in game with and without the profiler
So whatever, I've done everything you've all said and I still have no idea
It just is with G25. Anything over 30% and it starts to clip, and is rediculously(sp) heavy. Red momo at least was different, it gave the same resistance with double amounts of %.
Even on 30% in game on LFS, If I applied the same force towards and away from me, i could easily rip the wheel from the base, Thats how hard I'm having to move the wheel when i need to
Yup, 30% force isn't driveable with 2 or even 3 fingers, and that's why you have been advised not to do so (except pine-fin who either isn't driving with a G25, or has replaced weight lifting with LFS).
Doesn't make easier or doesn't make a difference? If you set in game force to 0%, does it really go off completely? If so, increase it one step at a time by pressing "." until you're happy with it, after all it's up to you how you want it.
10% or lower is even more undriveable, 15%-20% seem to be good, Now the heavy turn has some how gone, I'm back to my counter steer issues, Of it pushing to full oppersite lock and being difficult to to straighten the front wheels again, So it chucks my car out the drift randomly
Edit: Was watching some random in car shots of drifting and no matter what I do the wheel dosen't move like that, Like its giving the FFB in the wrong place or the wrong way or something
If your car is drifting, the wheel really does countersteer "by itself", because the tyres want to follow the path of least resistance. If you try to straighten them at some point, there will most likely be more resistance, which is what you're talking about.
If you've never driven LFS with high amounts of wheel turn degrees, it can take some time to adapt despite possible real world driving experience. But it's just the lack of physical clues, nothing that a few practise days couldn't heal.
Again no one explaned anything full, I was told it was 101%-105% in the profiler, Not the in game force, Other the the wheel rotation mine is exactly the same
Edit: Setting in game force to over 100% makes its so I can not turn the wheel into a corner, Practice days?, It been over a week and I'm no closer to balencing the car and controling the angle during counter steer, Casue the wheel dosen't let me steer where I am needing to, Theres no way that is realistic
Cleary something is missing if I am doing EXACTLY as I am told to do, I mean how can I put the setting anymore like your all telling me to? Have checked and tripple checked, I'm not blaming anyone, I have been tottaly overloaded with everything and I don't feel I have been told the bit that I need, Casue I still haven't got it sorted despite all the pics and the manulas and stuff
Then why is it Wheel Turn Compensation that you set to 1.00 but everyone has been calling it Linarcy, I will start over with everything from this post and see how it gose
I haven't been waiting months to play GTR or TOCA
When you change the Global in the profiler it auto changes the Game Controllers, But I was told to use Game sepicific so dose the mean that the global has to be default? Thats the stuff I need explaning and manuals and car set-up guides only state what things are, It dosen't help me know where to set sliders for what I need from the car, Also when you reinstall the drivers you have to make sure its fully removed from Add Remove programes or it dosen't seem to start the calibration setup, Have tried reinstalling drivers, Then it made TOCA and GTR unplayable, Untill I got it to run the inital calibration screen and theres no Calibration button under ether of the 2 tabs in the Windows Game Controllers section, Now the Logitech Device Wizard dose not start, Will it dose for a split second and is gone again
Edit: I can't see what I could of overlooked, The profiler is 101% overall and the rest on 0% with the center spring unticked, I have the global set exactly the same for lack of knowing what to set it too, I dunno if Axis Properties would effect it much, But here is Sensitivity 50%, Dead zone 0% Range 100%, Invert Axis Polarity unticked, Other than that I've done what you have said
Well then you must be doing something wrong if the Profiler 'doesn't make any difference to anything'. Maybe you didn't set it up correctly in the Windows Game Controllers, check the calibration or something.[/quote] 
