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I take offence to somebody using an out-of-date stereotype of a nation as being stupid to be funny.

And there you have it. I never said anything about anyone being stupid. I listed 3 tracks. So they all happen to be reverse configs.. nothing mentioned about being stupid there. What made you bring it up? hmmmmm.......

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This forum is multi-national and mult-cultural, as is the sim and should be treated as such.

No idea why you bring this up.. hell, even you brought up the name 'Paddy'.. or is that like N!gger, where black people can call each other it, but woe-betide anyone else who happens to use the word? I haven't said anything about multinational / multicultural anything.

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If your antiquidated views are inappropriate then you'll be reprimanded as you just have been by the mod.

I did? I must have missed that.

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Your signature says as much about your cultural views as your attitude to modern nations such as Ireland.

Oh please.. now you're just making me laugh... actually out loud

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Take the Mod's advice and move on please.

What mod's advice? I don't see any post here by a mod

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PS. My quotation above is not something "cute" I made up, but a regulation from the forum charter, just to clarify that for you.

hah.. if you think I was calling the rules 'cute'.. maybe you aren't the full shilling afterall



Regards,

Ian

petercollins your not one to be giving lectures on forum etiquette
or would you like me to dig up those old post of yours?
Relax man, you'll live longer. Nothing wrong with a little stereotyping, so long as it is meant light-heartedly.

Back on topic: I'm not really sure what the OP is on about, i'd like to see some road courses that would be pretty cool.

Anyone for a Guinness?

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And there you have it. I never said anything about anyone being stupid. I listed 3 tracks. So they all happen to be reverse configs..

:tit:

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I don't see any post here by a mod

:shhh: best not to point it out

Ian, just leave it and move on please

Quote from nikimere :

petercollins your not one to be giving lectures on forum etiquette
or would you like me to dig up those old post of yours?
Relax man, you'll live longer. Nothing wrong with a little stereotyping, so long as it is meant light-heartedly.

Back on topic: I'm not really sure what the OP is on about, i'd like to see some road courses that would be pretty cool.

Anyone for a Guinness?

Nikimere

I was banned for months - there's the difference

I like it when people display their stereotypes of Australians - have one look at that Simpsons episode where they go to Oz and it's just giant beers, politicians in wigs, Mad Max biker punks and no knowledge of anything but beer (Marge: Coffee! "COF-FEE!" Barman: "BE-ER?") A lot of people also think our national anthem is a song about a sheep-stealing tramp who commits suicide rather than go to jail! I can hardly blame him though - if the Victorian state cops in the 19th century were as dodgy as they are these days he did himself a favour.

Everyone's got a national stereotype (fat, loud Yank tourist with a huge camera, Hawaiian shirt and no appreciation of where he is, for example), it doesn't mean people are having a go at you when they bring it up I like it when people are ignorant of my country. It gives me a chance to make them even more ignorant by mentioning fearsome animals like drop-bears, and making up laws like "you can actually marry a sheep, but only one at a time and only in a civil ceremony". It's New Zealand that allows sheep polygamy. Buncha freaks.

Pete, much as I understand your point I honestly think you're over-reacting. You're also barkin' up the wrong coolibah tree if you expect Ian to back off and say sorry

Thats why I love our DSR forum.. you can say anything that's on your mind!!

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Again cute.. how are reversed configs stupid? If you're reading that into what I posted, then you obviously have your own thoughts way beyond mine.

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:shhh: best not to point it out

Oh.. I see now.. my Greasemonkey script works to block any poster whereas the forum software itself doesn't allow blocking of mod's posts.

Was hardly a reprimand though.. to me it reads more like sarcasm than reprimanding.

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Ian, just leave it and move on please

Why? can't go the full 12 rounds?

People like you make me laugh.. jump up and down and create a scene.. then expect everyone else to go away and be quiet in the corner.

You get your wish however, I have an early start in the morning.



Regards,

Ian

Quote from Hankstar :

I like it when people display their stereotypes of Australians - have one look at that Simpsons episode where they go to Oz and it's just giant beers, politicians in wigs, Mad Max biker punks and no knowledge of anything but beer (Marge: Coffee! "COF-FEE!" Barman: "BE-ER?")

Everyone's got a national stereotype (fat, loud Yank tourist with a huge camera, Hawaiian shirt and no appreciation of where he is), it doesn't mean people are having a go at you when they bring it up I like it when people are ignorant of my country. It gives me a chance to make even more ignorant by mentioning fearsome animals like drop-bears, and making up laws like "you can actually marry a sheep, but only one at a time and only in a civil ceremony". It's New Zealand that allows sheep polygamy. Buncha freaks.

Pete, much as I understand your point I honestly think you're over-reacting. You're also barkin' up the wrong coolibah tree if you expect Ian to back off and say sorry

I was in Australia last year and, like Homer, I was REALLY disappointed with the size of the beers....the bloody schooners were less than a pint!!!!

The more you travel, the less these stereotypes are funny (perhaps why these are used so much in US comedies?) but point taken.

They're used in US comedies so often because US viewers don't want to be troubled by anything they don't already know, or at least think they already know, and writers are happy to oblige them

Ah, stereotypes. Too easy

As for the beers, it seems in every state there's a different name for each size glass. Schooner means a half pint in Adelaide, pot means the same thing in Melbourne, pint means something which isn't actually a pint in Sydney and they don't seem to call a pint a pint either (they say schooner I think), which is plain stupid - pint is a unit of measurement, you'd think it be a bloody pint wherever you are. Then you've got midis, butchers, etc. It's bloody confusing, even to Australians (to the point where I'm not even sure I got any of that stuff right). Most people just say "I'll have a [insert brand], thanks" and reply "yeah that'll do" to whatever the barman says next

However, in Darwin, ask for a Darwin stubby and they'll hand you a 2-litre bottle, also known as a "medium".

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you obviously have your own thoughts way beyond mine

:iagree:

Quote from Hankstar :

I like it when people display their stereotypes of Australians

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The best stereotype I saw in regards to Aussies were in the old XXXX ads. One that sticks out in my mind was where they were loading up the back of a truck (sorry, uuute mayte ). Rammed with XXXX, added 2 bottles of sherry and the rear suspension collapsed.. of course, this was blamed on "overdoing on the sherry"

Aussies are great.. dunno how they all seem to stay so chilled all the time (must be the beer! hah) but they always seem laid back.. maybe that's just yet another stereotype



Regards,

Ian

Quote from Hankstar :

They're used in US comedies so often because US viewers don't want to be troubled by anything they don't already know, or at least think they already know, and writers are happy to oblige them

Ah, stereotypes. Too easy

True, but (and this is wayyy off-topic) I think the real problem is that the US 'vacation' breaks are too short to allow any overseas travel (2 wks average per year?) Hence most US tourists are retirees, unlike the Ozzies who seem to be everywhere but Australia!!!

It's a real shame because travelling to US/Aus/Asia is commonplace among young people in Ireland, UK, Asia, Australia/NZ and Europe and does seem to broaden the mind beyond these stereotypes.

Just a thought.

What were we on about again?

We were talking about Irish alcoholics - no, race tracks. That's right. Race tracks

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The best stereotype I saw in regards to Aussies were in the old XXXX ads. One that sticks out in my mind was where they were loading up the back of a truck (sorry, uuute mayte ). Rammed with XXXX, added 2 bottles of sherry and the rear suspension collapsed.. of course, this was blamed on "overdoing on the sherry"

Aussies are great.. dunno how they all seem to stay so chilled all the time (must be the beer! hah) but they always seem laid back.. maybe that's just yet another stereotype

Regards,

Ian

XXXX ads A favourite joke down here is: "How do you Queenslanders spell 'beer'?" "Der, can't you read? 'XXXX' of course."

The laid-back thing's sorta true. Don't quite know where it comes from. Sometimes it's just too damn hot to give a shit I guess

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We were talking about Irish alcoholics - no, race tracks. That's right. Race tracks.

Oh yeah

Irish racetracks are rubbish, this I do know

I've driven round all of them i.e. Mondello Park

Dundrod's a great track and the only Irish track I've seen. Granted, I've only driven it virtually in GPL and it's just public roads, but it really is a wicked layout :up:

Quote from Hankstar :

Don't quite know where it comes from. Sometimes it's just too damn hot to give a shit I guess

It comes from being from one of the most beautiful, well-organised countries in the world, with a great (brief) history, great sporting teams, fantastic climate and a healthy disrespect for mundane work.

It also helps that you are at arms length from the rest of the "civilised" world and the fact that travelling is built into every citizen from what seems like birth.

You also have the best racetrack in the world (Bathurst) and host the best GP of the year in Albert Park, although I did prefer Adelaide (as did all the F1 drivers).

And just as we call the €3,000,000 Dublin Milennium Spire "the stiletto in the ghetto", you call the Sydney Harbour Bridge "the coat hanger"

GREAT!

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Dundrod's a great track and the only Irish track I've seen. Granted, I've only driven it virtually in GPL and it's just public roads, but it really is a wicked layout :up:

Unfortunately Dundrod is in Antrim, Northern Ireland, so we can't lay claim to that one...as fantastic as it is, it's not ours!

Heh, you like my country more than I do Guess I'm spoiled. I'm glad you like the Adelaide street circuit better than Albert Park too (my home town, lil' Adelaide). Excellent choice, sir, and may I recommend the Penfolds 1997 St Henri Shiraz?

Good point about travel. We're on a huge island, 66% of which is uninhabitable, nowhere near anywhere (no offence to PNG, South East Asia and New Zealand) and we're from all over the place so I suppose it's natural for us to get out and see the world. You can find an Aussie collecting glasses in a bar on every continent without much trouble.

Quote from petercollins :

The more you travel, the less these stereotypes are funny (perhaps why these are used so much in US comedies?) but point taken.

Being quite a seasoned traveller (allthough I've never been to ireland, but it's one of the destinations I have the strong urge to visit), I have to disagree. Especially when I know better, I find stereotypes hilarious.

And I apologize for my crudely painted "track", because I wanted only to provoke some giggles and not a discussion about nationalities.

And I love Oz too, another place I still have to visit. It's quite fun to confuse the odd american tourist with our similar named countries. Happened in a bar in Torremolinos in Spain. American Tourist College Chick: "So, where are you from?" Me: "Austria" She: "Oh really? I thought the Australian accent sounded totally different"... the talk found it's zenith when she tried to convince me that Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart was american.

/me wants Rosegreen for drift battles

Ireland has plenty of racetracks, just not official ones
Ever seen O' Connell street (either of 'em actually!)?

look lets face it

the irish are drunken sods thick sods who fight a lot when drunk

the scotish are drunken tight fisted sods who fight a lot when drunk

the english are drunken, big headed sods who fight a lot when drunk

and my fellow country men and i are all drunken sheepshagging, thick, illiterate tight fisted miners who fight and sing a lot when drunk oh and we're better at all of these than anyone else

everycountry / race has its stereotypes, the best way to stop their use as insults is to appreciate the joke and realise that the first step to being integrated in the world is to be able to laugh at oneself and country

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What difference does an Irish orientated track bring?

More pigs, guinness and leprechauns than other racing venues.

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More pigs, guinness and leprechauns than other racing venues.

Too right!

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look lets face it

the irish are drunken sods thick sods who fight a lot when drunk

the scotish are drunken tight fisted sods who fight a lot when drunk

the english are drunken, big headed sods who fight a lot when drunk

and my fellow country men and i are all drunken sheepshagging, thick, illiterate tight fisted miners who fight and sing a lot when drunk oh and we're better at all of these than anyone else

Bloody oath. And we Aussies are a mongrel bastard breed of all of the above, so it's no wonder we occasionally win at the rugby In my family's case, mostly Welsh & German with some Scots & Normandy Frenchies thrown in early on. When we're not busy getting drunk & punching each other out while singing hearty rugger songs we sit around and argue with each other. Which usually involves alcohol, which leads to singing, then punching ...

Quote from petercollins :

Oh yeah

Irish racetracks are rubbish, this I do know

I've driven round all of them i.e. Mondello Park

Actually i think Mondello is a pretty nice track, very technical.
It's just not wide enough for good racing, but then again if you are going to pass someone you have to work for it around there, so you feel extra satisfaction from passing around there.
Facility wise it's a hole, but the track itself is nice.