in ridge racer, they have 2 different car types "grip" and "drift". maybe that's where it started? i personally think the term "gripper" or "grip racing" is retarded. only noobs call racing or racers grippers.
Poll : Do you like the term "grip"?
No, it should be "racing" or "racer"
91
Either way is fine
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Yes, it's fine
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actually, i think that people have debates of Drift vs. Grip racing because of initial d... the do talk about racing, but they use drifting to slow down around corners...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WHgkzLtRUE
and sadly fr always triumph over awd...
the reason is always some kind of lame or silly Deus ex Machina... like, for instance... brake fades, panics, fear of on coming traffic, cat got in the way...
note: these are totally true excuses, go watch the series your self...
people are hypnotized to think that good cars are lame, and basic, old, slow FR's are the way to go. and while this show is technically accurate (because keiichi overlooks production)... it gives false impressions, such as that AWD drivers are cocky basterds who can not drive the car themselves... and so that's why there is people who are new to auto sports and claims that FR's are better then AWD. because it's not... FR's can turn in well if you can maintain front wheel grip(because of oversteer). but you wont be able to exit the corner until you get grip on your rear wheels again.
p.s. on a side note, initial d 1st season stresses the point of 4 wheel drifts...WTF? how are you going to corner if you don't have traction???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WHgkzLtRUE
and sadly fr always triumph over awd...
the reason is always some kind of lame or silly Deus ex Machina... like, for instance... brake fades, panics, fear of on coming traffic, cat got in the way...
note: these are totally true excuses, go watch the series your self...
people are hypnotized to think that good cars are lame, and basic, old, slow FR's are the way to go. and while this show is technically accurate (because keiichi overlooks production)... it gives false impressions, such as that AWD drivers are cocky basterds who can not drive the car themselves... and so that's why there is people who are new to auto sports and claims that FR's are better then AWD. because it's not... FR's can turn in well if you can maintain front wheel grip(because of oversteer). but you wont be able to exit the corner until you get grip on your rear wheels again.
p.s. on a side note, initial d 1st season stresses the point of 4 wheel drifts...WTF? how are you going to corner if you don't have traction???
Gripping, Grip Racing or any other derivative of it should be forcibly removed from everyones vocabulary.
Since time began there have always been racers, racing drivers and races. Drifting is a recent thing, so we now have drifters, which are those that drift. Anyone who races, in a competition solely to see who crosses the line in front of others is a racer, or racing driver.
The grip bullshit only seems to have become used after drifters mistakenly thought that they also "raced" and thus had to invent a new term for people who race.
Since time began there have always been racers, racing drivers and races. Drifting is a recent thing, so we now have drifters, which are those that drift. Anyone who races, in a competition solely to see who crosses the line in front of others is a racer, or racing driver.
The grip bullshit only seems to have become used after drifters mistakenly thought that they also "raced" and thus had to invent a new term for people who race.
You, sir, are a textbook example of a drifter who hasn't a clue about racing, drifting or a car generally...
Whats the big deal what racers are called? I think it's something you'll all get over in time.
A gripper should be a tire in that filosopy
I can understand what people mean no matter which of those they use, so it is same what they use 
The term, was first used in the Japanese automotive TV show, Hot Version, a side project of the motoring TV show, Best Motoring.
One of the presenters of either Hot Version or Best Motoring is a man named Keiichi Tsuchiya, aka "the drift king" aka "dorikin" aka "dori dori". He, along with Hot Version, is a technical supervisor to the anime series Initial D.
So, as usual, you can thank the Japanese for this term.
One of the presenters of either Hot Version or Best Motoring is a man named Keiichi Tsuchiya, aka "the drift king" aka "dorikin" aka "dori dori". He, along with Hot Version, is a technical supervisor to the anime series Initial D.
So, as usual, you can thank the Japanese for this term.
Nah, he is a driveler
From this thread, I have now understood all of the technological terms.
Those who drift are skidders.
Those who race are grippers.
Those who make the points in basketball are shooters.
Those who get the ball down court to the shooters are dribblers.
Those who make sense in forums are posters.
Those like atlantian who haven't a clue what they are talking about, yet still insist on joining conversation whether in person or on forums are drivelers because of the stupid drivel they insist on continuing with here.
i think atlantian is joking...
I prefer something in the lines of "the dam bastard front of me". 
but whats a racer? is it the same for politically correct people as a witcher is for witches?
or is it the comparative of race? and which race is the raciest?
and doesn't do a good job at that (Sadly), since the best car ever to race (in the series' opinion) is a prehistoric lightweight underpowered box shaped car...
and beating the R32 Skyline all the time is just funny...
However, there's a new (?) anime series out called Wangan Midnight which features better (IMHO) cars, and the tech specs are quite more interesting and possible, which is also overlooked by Keiichi, and I must say - WM is a massive improvement over the Initial D series, however, there was one deus ex machina moment that I actually noticed (Ferrari Testa spinning out because it had to do a quick slalom between traffic at the speed of around 280+ kph, giving the S30Z Datsun 240Z (with L28 twinturbo lump swap) win the race), but the anime is more about passion for cars rather than winning a silly streetrace with a less powerful cheap car
(that was all a bit offtopic, sorry)
Or would the gripper be the road surface?
Some one or thing that races?
I ask you, who call Initial D lame because the main character wins all the time.
Are all movies and books and stories lame because the main character/s wins against the odds?
Besides Takumi was supposed to be this amazingly super duper talented driver. An exceptionally good driver in an old underpowered NA RWD car will most likely beat a bad driver in a new turbo AWD car. Especially on a track that consists of very tight turns with only very short straights and is quite steep down hill.
If you still think Initial D is lame. Are you saying that LFS is lame because I, whilst driving the XRT, can keep up and occasionally even pass some people that drive the FZ5?
If thats so we have or takumi wright her his name is
March Hare
how is that true? i am just saying, that people are hypnotized to believe that fr's are better then awd's which is so not true. i think you should brush up on your english skills, because i did not opinionatedly praise Initial D, it is technically accurate, but my point is that the only reason that people loose to a corolla is because the other drivers all suck major balls at driving.
^yay! someone who understood my post!
I was already corrected please read
If that were the case I would have done it driving the XRG.
More like Takahashi Ryosuke with his FC RX7
@atlantian
This just shows how many people believe everything they see on the TV to be real.
Yeesh!
but, yeah... my friend who is joining the local team with me and my other buddy... he is getting the FC3S because Rysuke Takahashi had one... but that's just because he can't decide and wanted something cool.
I don't have a problem with the term itself, just the people who use it. When used by most drifters, it shows a lack of knowledge of the speaker about how to drive RWD cars.
I'm pretty good at driving RWD cars but I often find myself sliding quite a bit when I get on the gas. Initial D fanboys and similar idiots online would say "z0Mg raCE DRIFTING, y0!"
Going slightly off topic:
Initial D is a good show but the fans are incredibly stupid. Ever been to an Initial D forum? It's just a bunch of 10 year olds trying to prove to the internet that they know some stupid, obscure fact about their favorite car in Initial D.
Similarly, I enjoy drifitng and watching drifting but find that most drifters on LFS are idiots. Does anybody know why this is?
I'm pretty good at driving RWD cars but I often find myself sliding quite a bit when I get on the gas. Initial D fanboys and similar idiots online would say "z0Mg raCE DRIFTING, y0!"
Going slightly off topic:
Initial D is a good show but the fans are incredibly stupid. Ever been to an Initial D forum? It's just a bunch of 10 year olds trying to prove to the internet that they know some stupid, obscure fact about their favorite car in Initial D.
Similarly, I enjoy drifitng and watching drifting but find that most drifters on LFS are idiots. Does anybody know why this is?
Because they are the same 10-year-olds as the ones on the fan site?
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