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that would be goodlfs dont have that kinda cars yet and im about to get a licence so even i could test it:bananalla

The STYLE of car might be quite good fun, as they are relatively easy to drive, being endurance cars, and so could provide good racing. But I don't think they'd be suited (realistically) to the sprint races LFS tends to cater for...

But please stop making new threads for topics we already have HUNDREDS of threads about. Otherwise someone'll give you a bunch of bananas.

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that would be goodlfs dont have that kinda cars yet and im about to get a licence so even i could test it:bananalla

Thank you for answer suggest..

Lol.. wtf?
Why took my thread on this thread? :S

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Lol.. wtf?
Why took my thread on this thread? :S

Because it's the same..

Because, as always you neglected to search, and ignored the fact that we also have an improvement suggestions log. Think about it next time.

Sorry forgot to mention, merged threads because.. well you figure it out.

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Sorry forgot to mention, merged threads because.. well you figure it out.

yes..

You know, the self-righteous pricks (snide comments about searching and posting) make me feel almost embarrased to be a part of this game...

Is it so hard to just keep your mouth shut if you can't say something nice to someone? Do you need to feed your ego by pretending that you are better than someone else? The forum has mods, they do their job well, I don't think we need 20 people being pricks about it.

Frankly, you all act like children in this forum. New threads arent a bad thing, I'm sure they arent paying for hosting by the thread. The alternative would be 20 long threads full of dated information.

The Le mans car are diferent from GTR , they have engines to resist the 24 hours of racing and the gear box and suspension and all that

If compare to the GRT cars , i think there are to wayyyy diferents

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The STYLE of car might be quite good fun, as they are relatively easy to drive, being endurance cars, and so could provide good racing. But I don't think they'd be suited (realistically) to the sprint races LFS tends to cater for...

Which of current cars (or the real life equivalent of them) is designed for 5 lap races?

Formula BMW and Renault cars don't do races that are that long.

Are you sure?

e.g.

2007 Formula BMW ADAC Round 18 + 17
9 + 11 laps
Circuit: Hockenheim (4574 m)

2007 Formula BMW UK, Round 18 + 17
22 + 25 laps
Circuit: Knockhill (2046 m)

2007 Formula BMW ADAC Round 14 + 13
14 + 14 laps
Circuit: Nurburgring (3629 m)

2007 Formula BMW USA Round 12 + 11
10 + 10 laps
Circuit: Road America (6515 m)

2007 Formula BMW ADAC Round 6 + 5
22 + 19 laps
Circuit: Norisring (2300 m)

http://www.formula3.cc/content/category/16/176/258/

Well not 5 lap races buy sprint races non-the-less. And GTRs are endurance cars IMO. The big ones at least. UFR and XFR are more of a WTCC like car used for sprint races.

EDIT: but yes, the LMPs are way different to GTRs. The latter are based on production chassis and engines, other parts are more or less swapped out, LMPs are made for racing from the ground up. But they are ALL meant for endurance racing. DBR9s, 575s, Corvettes and stuff like that are used mainly in the ALMS, Le Mans and GTR (if that series still exists).

Id like the corvettes that go 24hrs at daytona all those cars would be cool, just not a real car some made up one!

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Well not 5 lap races buy sprint races non-the-less. And GTRs are endurance cars IMO. The big ones at least. UFR and XFR are more of a WTCC like car used for sprint races.

EDIT: but yes, the LMPs are way different to GTRs. The latter are based on production chassis and engines, other parts are more or less swapped out, LMPs are made for racing from the ground up. But they are ALL meant for endurance racing.

Show me a race car that is not made for racing...

My original point was that it's trivial to say something is in real life meant for endurance and thus not suitable for anything else, if the car can run for 24 hours, it surely can run for 5 laps too...

Not that a new car would be the first thing LFS needs right now, but surely LM prototype is the most obvious class missing.

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DBR9s, 575s, Corvettes and stuff like that are used mainly in the ALMS, Le Mans and GTR (if that series still exists).

GTR = FIA GT? If this clears it up: The major series using GT1 and GT2 class cars are FIA GT, ALMS, Le Mans Series and 24 Hours of Le Mans. ALMS and Le Mans are under ACO while FIA GT is obviously under FIA, but mainly the GT1 and GT2 regulations are the same, with some exceptions, e.g. FIA bended the rules that Maserati MC12 can race, that's why you don't see that in Le Mans because it doesn't comply with the original rules.

GTR cars in LFS are actually more similar in specs-wise to ex-JGTC cars (nowadays called Super GT, the Japanese series).

Ferrari 575 is by the way obsolete, altough there was one in Le Mans 2007, but it was private car and team. IIRC it was last used in FIA GT in 2005.

Well GTs are made using road car chassis' and engines. That's what i mean. LMPs have a full carbon fibre tub, body work, engine, all specificaly made for endurance racing. More and more nowadays for Le Mans. That's what i meant.

I agree that the GTRs are quite simmilar to JGTCs since they are turbo powered (well, XRR and FXR). DIdn't know about the 575, so only the MC12 races from the FIAT group now? And what's happening fith FIA GT? There are no TV broadcasts, they run on obscure, never before heard for racetracks. It's going more and more downhill or what? And a Le Mans Series? That exists too? Where do they race?

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DIdn't know about the 575, so only the MC12 races from the FIAT group now?

There used to be 550 too which was faster but dunno why it was vanished too because it still had won championships in 2003 and 2004. So there haven't been (regularly) Ferraris in GT1 grid since 2005. Of course GT2 is full of Ferrari 430s though.

You can see MC12 only in FIA GT because ACO doesn't want to bend the rules as far as I've understood. ALMS which is using ACO rules but sanctioned by IMSA, has accepted MC12 and it has done few random races there, even two races last year which were failures though.

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And what's happening fith FIA GT? There are no TV broadcasts, they run on obscure, never before heard for racetracks. It's going more and more downhill or what?

I guess it's doing pretty ok. Don't know about TV coverage, it's on MotorsTV?

FIA GT's Stephane Ratel wants to try new tracks, but most of the European ones are well known. Maybe you just have not heard of them. In this year in November they'll have a race in Argentina, the track looks pretty interesting and it will be build on even more interesting scenery That is actually a lake inside the track. And next to the track is (non-active) vulcano. Talk about extraordinary track

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And a Le Mans Series? That exists too? Where do they race?

Le Mans Series was started in 2004. The class system is same than in Le Mans and ALMS: LMP1, LMP2, GT1 and GT2. They race mostly in Europe in well known GP tracks, last year had one race in Brazil (Interlagos), but this year 5 races in Europe plus one extra event in Shangai. All races are 6 hour races (aka 1000 km). It lacks tv coverage but grids are still very healthy because through this (and ALMS) ACO gives entry tickets to Le Mans.

See more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Le_Mans_Series_season

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And what's happening fith FIA GT? There are no TV broadcasts, they run on obscure, never before heard for racetracks. It's going more and more downhill or what? And a Le Mans Series? That exists too? Where do they race?

Last year, the FIA GT championship ran on some very well-known tracks: Zhuhai, Monza, Silverstone, Spa, Brno, Oschersleben, and Zolder. The only obscure ones were Adria, Paul Armagnac, and Bucharest.

The Le Mans Series is the successor to the European Le Mans Series and the Le Mans Endurance Series: http://www.lmes.net/2007/uk/

[EDIT: Deggis grabs the chequered flag! ]

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In this year in November they'll have a race in Argentina, the track looks pretty interesting and it will be build on even more interesting scenery That is actually a lake inside the track. And next to the track is (non-active) vulcano. Talk about extraordinary track

Should be able to see how fast those cars and drivers are when that volcano rumbles.