Hi i was just thinking, to get the best out of this game you must need a wheel with force feedback, i dont have 1 but i gavered that most people on here with fast lap times have wheels with force feedback, using a joy pad does not give me much of a feel when driving!
Well, you can get fast with every control method, but IMO the wheel is the easiest and most natural controller. FF helps a great deal too, but in the end it's just a matter of practice.
What do you mean you hate it? I can't drive without it.. I mean i can, but it's wrong. In real car you feel all of that forces, and the wheel is strugling with you as you drive, i wanna feel all that in the SIM too..
If you want to experience racing get a wheel with FF. I mean I can see how people like using a mouse or keyboard, but what's the point when you can use the real deal. I mean if you go out and ever try real racing, don't you want to have the steering wheel experience with this game?
Thats what i mean when driving a real car you can push and get feed back through wheel which give u information on how car is handling, on this game with a mouse or pad or keybord thats not so, This is a racing game and i cant wait untill my wheel arrives and then i can feel the force ot this game. LET THE FORCE BE WITH YOU
I use a driving force pro. FF is on. All I was sying is that someone said that they didn't like FF and I just said that they should probably try again with lower FF settings because the default ones can be too strong. FF is awesome.
FF is the way to go on a driving simulator, especially when you have to control the gas and brake, the steering is great too, but who wants to press the on and off button for gas. I think it's great to be able to feel the road, and real learn each bump as it comes....I understand some people like keyboard and mouse, but if I had to use those I might not be on this game in the first place, because live for speed feels the best out of all the other racing game I have played in my time.
Have you tried LFS' force feedback or just some game? LFS gives you feeback as you would feel through the wheel of a real car. You won't get all those bumps and lumps and shakes and shimmys that you get in your vanilla flavour racing game, all you get is what you would really get in a real car. If you have LFS and don't use the FFB then you have less than you think.
FFB in LFS helps you sense the car's behavior, it's not just an array of fancy effects, it is useful to the driver. So if other games have put you off with their FFB, give LFS another try. You won't get all of those BS effects that shouldn't be there.
FF is god
Ive only had my DFP getting a week now and i race and dr*ft (<---forbidden word round here it seems lol) anyway cant drift anymore as i need to practice. On the curcuits i no (eg blackwood in the XFG) i am equally as quick but then tried racing without wheel (had probs with wheel all sorted now ) and it felt wrong, totally wrong. My times were all over the place and i was struggling at times to get the car to do wat i wanted it to do.
So all in all - IMO wheels with FF are so the better controller for LFS.
What kind of wheel do you have? If you really don't like FF then you must have a really crappy wheel or you don't have correct FF/wheel settings. As already said the default FF settings in LFS are way too high. With default values (100 % ?!) it feels like the game is breaking the FF motor in the wheel. For example I use black MOMO, about 50 % strength in the Logitech Profiler and about 15-40 % in the game depending on the car.
If you don't want to play with FF, it's your pie but it would make your lap times much faster and the overall driving expecience much better...
Huh? LOL.
So what? XRT is rather easy with mouse. Try making a WR time with LX6 or FO8 playing with a mouse...
I also use the black momo too, and well I have had it for 5 years + and it's great! This game does have the feeling that no other games do. The feeling of every bump, and corner, every little detail down to the feeling of having too many flat spots on your tires. I really do understand how people love the mouse and keyboard, but I bet anyone that loves those forms of racing in live for speed either 1, doesn't drive in real life, or 2: never has really experienced a force feedback wheel. I'm sorry but I give no love to those who can't race with a a proper wheel. I respect what people like, but I really think it's time for everyone that doesn't have a wheel to get one, especially cause this game was made for one.
Maybe but I dont know how to make a good setup for FF. I have black momo and im interested only in FOX so can anybody tell me few examples of how the setups should look???
hi i have setups which i have got from others and i guess there set ups are for use with a wheel, well im using there setup and i use a joy pad, would there be much of a difference on how i drive the car with a pad and on how they drive with the same setup using a wheel.?
Well if you practice a lot you will get really close to the people that are using wheel. (But its really hard and takes a lot of time) Buy a crappy wheel. Its always better than joypad (I think) Go to www.ebay.com
I use an xbox controller (joypad) and these are the settings: (will post them just incase another joypad user is looking for help)
In the Car setup - I generally change the Max Steering Lock to about 16, and maybe bring the Brake Bias forward 1 point from the standard WR sets don't really touch anything else.
In the Options undrer Controller settings - I set Wheel Turn to 180, Wheel Turn Compensation to 0.30, Remove Deadzones to Yes and under the Misc section I set Analog Steer Smooth to 0.6.
These settings work well for me I can normally get within 2 seconds of the WR time on any car track after a few laps and with abit of practise reduce that down to 1 second or so... and I'm an old fart so any youngens should be able to do better
[edit]It's the original large (easier to hold than the later smaller ones) controller, which has 6 analog axis(two analog 2 axis ministicks and 2 analog triggers), 10 buttons and a 4 way digital controller. The settings I suggest are for the analog steering to help reduce the sensitivity without sacrificing precsion. I use the two analog triggers for brake/throttle. Just use these settings as a start point and change to your own taste with your particular controller.[/edit]
) and it felt wrong, totally wrong. My times were all over the place and i was struggling at times to get the car to do wat i wanted it to do.
so any youngens should be able to do better 