That part of your post is certainly very true.
That part of your post is certainly very true.
Btw, if you want a scathing and insightful indictment of the drug war and a lot of other ills of modern society, check out The Wire. Basically the best thing that's ever been on television, and the smartest too.
actually i honestly don't mind if the government legalizes marijuana and other drugs, the stupid get more stupid, and everybody wins 
Here it's allowed for transactions till 5 gramms (only in coffeeshops and of course not to minors). It's like beer, you can't drink it on the streets but in a pub it will be fine.
is anyone here from amsterdam?
Amsterdam is the capital of the Netherlands, it doesn't have different rules then the rest of the country. It's not realy legalised (not in Amsterdam and not in the rest of the country), but it's just that you won't get arrested if you don't have to much. We call it "gedogen"
In Belgium, France, Denmark, Switserland, parts of Spain you also won't get arrested for having small bits of softdrugs.
I read a little of this thread here and there... most of it was just say no/legalize weed debate type nonsense. Some people offered you advice about getting a lawyer. that might help, but might not be necessary. It depends on caseloads of the court you have to go to.
An overworked Prosecutor might not have the time to mess with you and it might get thrown out. You're a juvenile, so unless that half a gram was actually half a kilo, then your legal hassles most likely won't be all that. probably a fine and maybe probation. My advice.... you got busted, Deal with it and DON'T SNITCH. If they got you scared they'll try to get you to snitch on people with promises of a lesser offense sometimes. Also, if you were "in & out" really fast after you got busted, people are going to think you snitched anyway, so be careful.
You knew the risks of doing what you were doing so I don't see the need to remind you of it. You might not have appreciated the risks, but you knew they were there. Good luck.
And who's the person most qualified to help him with such knowledge? A good lawyer. Lawyers don't only know law, they practice it. And in trials jurisprudence is less important than practice.
Weed zombies? That's a first.
Unless they smoketh the weed until their eyes did bleed.
It's a well known evolutionary fact that the slow braincells are the ones being killed because they can't run fast enough so you're left with the elite fast ones and thus you become smarter.
This rhythmic tone is really making me moan and groan and scream for the phone.
Amen - had to be the only police series that I've watched that didn't bore me to tears even though it basically takes them a whole season to resolve the main case. This is for you.
I have never been arrested for selling dope, but.. I had my trouble with the law also and all I can say is; dude, some day, maybe in a year or in ten years, you sit on the toilet taking a crap and suddenly have a clear moment and you realize what you have done and all you can say/yell outloud is:"Goddamn it!"
So get more fibre into your diet before it's too late.
Guys, he only had 0.2 grams on him (supposedly about enough for one spliff, I don't do weed or have any desire to do so). Surely a dealer would probably have about 100 times that on them or something.
"The bigger boys made me do it" wouldn't quite get you out here.
The best thing to do to retain the most respect, dignity and probably get the least punishment is just to tell the truth and nothung but.
When you start telling fibs you get confused, mess up and then get charged way more than you would if you just said "I only intended to use this for personal use, I wouldn't dream of selling it". (if that was the actual case in question)
The best thing to do to retain the most respect, dignity and probably get the least punishment is just to tell the truth and nothung but.
When you start telling fibs you get confused, mess up and then get charged way more than you would if you just said "I only intended to use this for personal use, I wouldn't dream of selling it". (if that was the actual case in question)
"only 0.2 grams" is the same as any amount if the intention was to sell. Or are you saying that it is ok to brake the law if it is "only 0.2 grams".
The point was that he was charged with supply, and that anyone who was supplying would surely have more than that on them
I'm not going to judge you on this, as I can certainly enjoy the ganga every now and then, .2 grams is nothing so not not about the story tho...
I do live 20 mins. from amsterdam and 5 mins from the nearest coffeeshop btw, however this does not encourage me to smoke it regularly, nor does it encourage me to do other drugs.
I do live 20 mins. from amsterdam and 5 mins from the nearest coffeeshop btw, however this does not encourage me to smoke it regularly, nor does it encourage me to do other drugs.
It doesent matter if you sell half a gram or 1 kg of drug. Drugs are still drugs and selling them makes it even worse. Hopefully you learnt your lesson.
I don't think one should respect stupid old laws that are just there because of slow byrocracy(sp?), if morale says otherwise. And it's ridiculous to assume (by the cops) that he was selling it if he only carried like one dose, it's like police pulled you over for speeding and claimed you tried to run away just because you didn't hit brakes at the same second...
The lesson here is: be careful with intoxicants at young age (as they can easily do damage to developing mind) and don't get caught
Ok... i've read thru this entire thread and I have quite a bit to say.
Firstly, a lot of you people are being extremely predjudice against Bryan... i find it absolutely absurd that you guys infer that he was trying to sell it to kids, he's a dealer, blah blah blah. You guys don't know anything more then what he has posted... so why go off on a stupid rant?
Anyways, Bryan, I can say that I have some experience with court and cops.. etc... mind you it was never for any drug-related charge. (I'm definitly not proud of it though, it was about 2 yrs of hell... im not going to go into it though). I will tell you from experience that cops here tend to overcharge everyone that they arrest (Especially the O.P.P.!!!) and just let the courts sort it out. Whatever you do, DO NOT ALLOW DUTY COUNSEL TO REPRESENT YOU! They dont give two shits about what the outcome of your court proceedings. (im talking from experience).
Im assuming this is your first "criminal" offense.... and you are under 18. In all honesty the worst that they are gonna do to you would be probation/alternative measures program. Neither of which result in you haveing a permanant criminal record. I can tell you that the laws surrounding marijunana use in Canada are pretty.... lax. Check out this site www.thepotlawhasfallen.ca (Written by a well known professor at the University of Toronto). That site contains some very valuable information which you might be able to apply to your court proceedings.
As for appearing in court, as many have said to you, be respectful, address the magistrate as "your worship" and show remorse. I'm sure you'll be fine.. especially considering your age. I can almost guarantee that none of the charges will stick.... if any do... it would be the simple possession (but even that's unlikely considering the amount you had on your person).
Bryan if you have any questions, feel free to PM me. I'll try to give you as much advice as i can if you'd like it.
Im definitly not proud of my past, but it gives me the drive to mentor youth who are facing the unfortunate situation of having to goto court.
Firstly, a lot of you people are being extremely predjudice against Bryan... i find it absolutely absurd that you guys infer that he was trying to sell it to kids, he's a dealer, blah blah blah. You guys don't know anything more then what he has posted... so why go off on a stupid rant?
Anyways, Bryan, I can say that I have some experience with court and cops.. etc... mind you it was never for any drug-related charge. (I'm definitly not proud of it though, it was about 2 yrs of hell... im not going to go into it though). I will tell you from experience that cops here tend to overcharge everyone that they arrest (Especially the O.P.P.!!!) and just let the courts sort it out. Whatever you do, DO NOT ALLOW DUTY COUNSEL TO REPRESENT YOU! They dont give two shits about what the outcome of your court proceedings. (im talking from experience).
Im assuming this is your first "criminal" offense.... and you are under 18. In all honesty the worst that they are gonna do to you would be probation/alternative measures program. Neither of which result in you haveing a permanant criminal record. I can tell you that the laws surrounding marijunana use in Canada are pretty.... lax. Check out this site www.thepotlawhasfallen.ca (Written by a well known professor at the University of Toronto). That site contains some very valuable information which you might be able to apply to your court proceedings.
As for appearing in court, as many have said to you, be respectful, address the magistrate as "your worship" and show remorse. I'm sure you'll be fine.. especially considering your age. I can almost guarantee that none of the charges will stick.... if any do... it would be the simple possession (but even that's unlikely considering the amount you had on your person).
Bryan if you have any questions, feel free to PM me. I'll try to give you as much advice as i can if you'd like it.
Im definitly not proud of my past, but it gives me the drive to mentor youth who are facing the unfortunate situation of having to goto court.
Well I finally took a read through this thread, I've been busy as hell at home the past day. Shoveled four decks, two roofs, and detailed 3 cars. My parents are really working my ass about this.
I can't believe some people here think I was selling, I think I shall clear some things up. I had .57grams on me (weighed at purchase) It was in my coat with my papers. I only got busted in the first place was because of graffiti that was going around the school, some little kid thought I was part of it. So when I got called down they searched me and found the weed. They got 'intent to sell' because when they were searching my bag they found an empty sandwich bag thats probably been in there for months. Acording to the law, thats 'packaging' for the 'product' so it can be 'distributed' What a load of bullshit.
Thanks for all the advice guys. And for the few of you, thanks for keeping posts mature, I know how that can sometimes be hard
~Bryan~
I can't believe some people here think I was selling, I think I shall clear some things up. I had .57grams on me (weighed at purchase) It was in my coat with my papers. I only got busted in the first place was because of graffiti that was going around the school, some little kid thought I was part of it. So when I got called down they searched me and found the weed. They got 'intent to sell' because when they were searching my bag they found an empty sandwich bag thats probably been in there for months. Acording to the law, thats 'packaging' for the 'product' so it can be 'distributed' What a load of bullshit.
Thanks for all the advice guys. And for the few of you, thanks for keeping posts mature, I know how that can sometimes be hard
~Bryan~
...And then I got arrested.
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