For some reason I seem to have shifting issues with the FJR. When I shift (flat) from 4 to 5 or 5 to 6 the gearchange sometimes does not happen but the ignition cut does work.

This only occurs in the restricted car. The unrestricted FO8 does not seem to have this problem.

Anyone else experienced the same problem?

Everyone does have this problem, thats a LFS bug, hopefully with the following patch, which is under testing now, this problem will be solved.

What's an FJR

Its not as i am using the patch. The FJR is very sensitive to proper throttle when shifting. Too much wont shift and too little is also a problem. This means misshifting is a definite option

Quote from BBO@BSR :

What's an FJR

A restricted Fo8.

I reported the FO8 issue in the bugs section, but in the meantime I'm told that I just suck at shifting in the FO8 (entirely possible) and that it's not a problem, with a tiny bit of practice.

Still, I'm pretty sure it'll be revisited by Scawen at some point. It seems it can be an issue with most cars with air restrictions in place, though we don't seem to have a problem with the UF-BR or the GT2 classes. It's just the FJR where we're struggling. Practice makes perfect, apparently

It is an issue with LFS, and I must admit it's beyond me why it only comes in when you restrict the FO8. Apparently its 'ECU' doesn't like not having enough power, whatever.

In the meantime, dip the clutch whilst changing gear, or ease off. Whichever, or both, and it'll shift up without a problem. It's sort of like an FBM in high gears now.

Oh, and Sam - we're not having a problem with the UF-BR or GT2 classes, I guess, because they're not automated gearboxes like the FO8 and BF1. It's not going to cause a problem when you have to use the clutch to change gear anyway

Sam

Quote from Dark Elite :

In the meantime, dip the clutch whilst changing gear, or ease off. Whichever, or both, and it'll shift up without a problem. It's sort of like an FBM in high gears now.

No it isn't. That's the problem, and why this is a bug rather than some people who don't know the proper technique.

For some people, myself included, the car simply refuses to shift into 4th, 5th and 6th correctly. I can manage 4th sometimes, but the amount of throttle I have to use is very precise. It's more than I normally lift for the other cars (especially FBM), but if it's just a tiny bit too much it won't shift either. The range is very very narrow, and gets worse in 5th or 6th gears. This costs me several seconds per lap on the shorter circuits, which pretty much means the FJR is undrivable for me.

That's not the proper technique for the FO8 anyway, only made necessary with this glitch, but...

I would swear mine was working absolutely fine when I used the clutch. Not entirely sure about just easing off the throttle, as in the FBM, but I shall check it now...

EDIT - I've been running the car at Aston, and I've found that - changing gear as the red shiftlight comes on - it goes into second without lifting the throttle or declutching, third without lifting or declutching, and fourth without lifting or declutching.
Fifth can be reached sometimes by easing the throttle all the way off and flipping the paddle whilst the throttle is fully closed, always by disengaging the clutch irrelevant of throttle position, but never by leaving the throttle open and the clutch engaged.
Sixth can sometimes be reached by easing the throttle all the way off and shifting with throttle closed, but slightly less often than fifth. As with fifth, dipping the clutch will always allow you to shift but keeping the throttle open and the clutch engaged will never let it shift up.

Looks like the only reliable way to drive it is to flatshift using the clutch to fifth and sixth. The clutch is never necessary for downshifting, this only seems to be affecting upshifts. Dipping the clutch to get to fifth and sixth is only very slightly slower than if you could use the sequential box normally, and doesn't add to clutch heat by any noticeable amount. It doesn't matter what the hell you do with the throttle, so long as you dip the clutch in time with the shift it works.

I did notice the car fail to shift from third to fourth with the throttle open very occasionally, and this was always fixed by releasing the paddle and then trying again without needing to let off the throttle or do anything else out of the ordinary.

EDIT after Post #11 - this test was carried out using the race_s setup

Sam

Yep this problem is a real pain, even dipping the throttle and/or clutch doesn't seem to work for me . What does work though is to screw the guts out of the car in 4th and 5th and change gear at the highest possible revs. It's such a pity because I have to say that the F08/FJR is in my opinion the best car in the game handling/physics/realistic wise.

Edit: Oh dark elite has already stated that flatshifting works..doh

Also the Dif settings play a role in the shift bug,
I noticed that if you put more lock in your dif (higher numbers) the problem gradually disappears.

I just press the clutch button as i shift up - never have a problem..

Quote from Lateralus :

No it isn't. That's the problem, and why this is a bug rather than some people who don't know the proper technique.

For some people, myself included, the car simply refuses to shift into 4th, 5th and 6th correctly. I can manage 4th sometimes, but the amount of throttle I have to use is very precise. It's more than I normally lift for the other cars (especially FBM), but if it's just a tiny bit too much it won't shift either. The range is very very narrow, and gets worse in 5th or 6th gears. This costs me several seconds per lap on the shorter circuits, which pretty much means the FJR is undrivable for me.

I don't get that. I have no problems with shifting what so-ever. Okay, you can't flatshift all the way to 6th gear, so what? Just lift off the throttle a tiny bit and its fine. The range is everywhere between 1% and 99% throttle. Timing is the most important thing here. Just practise it a little and it should be fine..

I think it's charming.. :P

Quote from Darkone55 :

The range is everywhere between 1% and 99% throttle.

I've already explained this man. The range isn't anywhere between 1% and 99% for me. It's 28.35%. If I use 28.34% it won't shift, and if I use 28.36% it won't shift. There's a strange bug which is only affecting some players.

I'll try Dru's suggestion to set my clutch to a button though. I've never done that before, but it's worth a shot.]

Quote from Demon68 :

I noticed that if you put more lock in your dif (higher numbers) the problem gradually disappears.

Wow, what the hell is going on with the physics?

Quote from Lateralus :

I've already explained this man. The range isn't anywhere between 1% and 99% for me. It's 28.35%. If I use 28.34% it won't shift, and if I use 28.36% it won't shift. There's a strange bug which is only affecting some players.

I don't believe that. Every LFS is the same. Maybe you should try autoclutch?

Perhaps as Demon68 says, the problem can be minimised in the setup. All LFS are the same, but all setups are different

Quote from SamH :

Perhaps as Demon68 says, the problem can be minimised in the setup. All LFS are the same, but all setups are different

I just checked. My (ctra, restricted fo8)setups very from 33 to 52 and everything in between.

Quote from Darkone55 :

I just checked. My (ctra, restricted fo8)setups very from 33 to 52 and everything in between.

i was mis-shifting with one of bouma's sets on FE Green.... its totally driver.. just minimising by knowing either when to shift or press the clutch in as you change up

You dont have to do anything in the setup. You dont even have to rev the engine up to the limit. You only have to press the clutch, when you want to shift up. Alltogether. Its very simple, almost impossible to do it wrong, so it's the fastest, and safest way to shift in FJR.

Sometimes I wonder why posts are readable in a thread when everyone thinks they can walk in and offer a brand-new solution that nobody else ever thought of...

Sam

Quote from Dark Elite :

Sometimes I wonder why posts are readable in a thread when everyone thinks they can walk in and offer a brand-new solution that nobody else ever thought of...

Sam

I've never thought it's a new solution. After your #7 post, still were discuss about the "shifting problem". Seemed like some people didn't red your post, or even worse, they don't understood it. You were absolutley right. I just wanted to close this thread, because there is no issue to discuss.

Ahh, right. I thought, from the lack of reference to any other posts, that you simply hadn't read the thread.

In that case, I apologise for being a bit blunt

Sam

Quote from Dark Elite :

Ahh, right. I thought, from the lack of reference to any other posts, that you simply hadn't read the thread.

In that case, I apologise for being a bit blunt

Sam

Well, guys are you sure this is a bug? I'm asking this because somewhere in the forum I read that in patch Y, apart from the CT, there is another added feature, mishifting (if that's how it's spelled) and it's occurring in sequential gearboxes with throttle-cut such as FO8/FJR, FOX etc. And i'm saying FOX because I have that problem with shifting with it as well, mostly when trying to shift from 5th to 6th going full throttle. I try to shift with easing up the throttle in order to prevent mishifting.

P.S. Please correct my above statement if you think that it's wrong.. Thanks

Quote from [GR]Evolution :

Well, guys are you sure this is a bug? I'm asking this because somewhere in the forum I read that in patch Y, apart from the CT, there is another added feature, mishifting (if that's how it's spelled) and it's occurring in sequential gearboxes with throttle-cut such as FO8/FJR, FOX etc. And i'm saying FOX because I have that problem with shifting with it as well, mostly when trying to shift from 5th to 6th going full throttle. I try to shift with easing up the throttle in order to prevent mishifting.

P.S. Please correct my above statement if you think that it's wrong.. Thanks

I'm pretty sure it's a bug, like others posted, it only happens in the restricted FO8 and not the non-restricted ones It's not that hard to workaround it, but it would be nice if it gets fixed soon.