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Quote from Stang70Fastback :You obviously haven't seen too much. Look at any development that was built within the last 10-15 years. All the houses are crap. Period. There is no argument. Older houses maybe, and custom-built houses are fine, but ALL the new developments going up now - which account for a very large percentage of homes in many areas are utter crap.

Yeah, in High School, during the summers, I'd frame. Drunk.

Don't buy new houses in the US. I'd never buy one. I like my old sturdy late 1800s victorian.

Even with its bad wiring, and warped floors. At least I know it wont fall down.
Quote from MattxMosh :Yeah, in High School, during the summers, I'd frame. Drunk.

Don't buy new houses in the US. I'd never buy one. I like my old sturdy late 1800s victorian.

Even with its bad wiring, and warped floors. At least I know it wont fall down.

Exactly. My grandmother just sold her old Tutor a year ago. That house was in REALLY bad shape, but being well built meant even as it deteriorated it was rock solid. The people who bought it are supposedly going to renovate it. That house has had a tree fall on it with no effect. A tree that would most surely tear our home in half. My dad actually really wants to move to Europe and get a REAL house, lol.
Does no-one in the US make houses out of, well... bricks?
#79 - JTbo
Quote from Crashgate3 :Does no-one in the US make houses out of, well... bricks?

At least in US made home renovation shows they show here on tv, they build really badly. Water sealing in bathroom seem to be non existing and such.
Such methods would never pass here, we have quite strict laws how you should do those things and there is LOT more to be done than what they make in those tv shows.
Quote from Crashgate3 :Does no-one in the US make houses out of, well... bricks?

Very rarely. Most homes have a fake brick facade and that's it.
Quote from Crashgate3 :Does no-one in the US make houses out of, well... bricks?

thats why always they get destroyed by tornados
A brick house cant hold a tornado duuude
Quote from Blas89 :A brick house cant hold a tornado duuude

yes.. more than a wood made house.. hell yes...
No, it cant. Period!! Discovery doesnt lie!
Quote from Stang70Fastback :Very rarely. Most homes have a fake brick facade and that's it.

But... why? Cheapness? Availability of raw materials? A wooden house just seems archaic when everything is built of brick and stone here. We have badly built houses too - my flat doesn't have a single right angle anywhere in it, and my parents' house built in the 1960s is the same. But isn't a wooden house a little bit of a fire risk?
My house is made of almost all brick. It was built in the 1960's though. The brick is two layers thick in some places, in fact.
Quote from Crashgate3 :Does no-one in the US make houses out of, well... bricks?

In all honesty, I've never in my entire life seen a house made of brick. I've seen stone houses (old) but none made of brick. All the "brick" houses I've ever seen are made from a wood frame, with brick around the outside.

Quote from JTbo :At least in US made home renovation shows they show here on tv, they build really badly. Water sealing in bathroom seem to be non existing and such.
Such methods would never pass here, we have quite strict laws how you should do those things and there is LOT more to be done than what they make in those tv shows.

Those TV shows are garbage and nothing done in those is done properly, full stop. That being said, we have strict guidlines and rules to follow as well in North America (which change depending on the location and use of a building) BUT, and a big but, is many buildings (not just homes) are not 100% built in compliance with these rules. There are many reasons; careless inspectors who don't see everything, contractors who don't bother getting proper permits to save themselves time/money, homeowners who don't know any better and allow this kind of behaviour, and also the thing I already mentioned; "bulk-built" residential developments where corners are cut because the construction workers are not properly trained, lazy, don't care, etc.

As much as people rag on Mike Holmes (host of a Canadian show) for his over-built tendencies, when he goes into a home to fix it, it is alarming to see just how bad many of these places are built. I honestly don't think this is unique to North America, though; I'd be willing to bet you've got the same problems in the UK and the rest of the world - just maybe not to the same extent.

Quote from STROBE :But... why? Cheapness? Availability of raw materials? A wooden house just seems archaic when everything is built of brick and stone here. We have badly built houses too - my flat doesn't have a single right angle anywhere in it, and my parents' house built in the 1960s is the same. But isn't a wooden house a little bit of a fire risk?

Homes are build with a wooden frame, and then a choice of siding around the outside of that (more complicated than that, obviously, but you get my point). Obviously I don't live in the UK, but I'd imagine most homes built over there in the last 30 years are built the same way; I'd have a hard time believing that residential properties in a developed country are still built using an archaic technique like stone. Stone as an exterior treatment, probably, but I doubt the stone is the actual structural component of the building.
Quote from STROBE :But... why? Cheapness? Availability of raw materials? A wooden house just seems archaic when everything is built of brick and stone here. We have badly built houses too - my flat doesn't have a single right angle anywhere in it, and my parents' house built in the 1960s is the same. But isn't a wooden house a little bit of a fire risk?

Cheapness is the major reason. I mean, you KNOW that cheap is high on the list when 90% of homes that even HAVE the fake brick/stone facade only have it on one or two sides and have aluminum siding on the other two. Usually only brick on the side facing the street - to give a "better" impression.
Quote from Blas89 :A brick house cant hold a tornado duuude

there are occasionally f1 tornados in germany and so far ive never seen any damage to houses other than broken roofs and windows in pictures of the aftermath
Tornado in México Click, Click2
Tornado in US: Click, Click2
Note: here compairing Mexico that is with bricks, and US with wood
Well I saw once in discovery channel a guy that build his home with bricks, and it was all destroyed after one tornado (iirc this happened to him twice, maybe the house was built with glue :shrug, problably the tornado had to much.. debri (like big pieces of wood and that stuff able to penetrate if you trow it with enough speed) in it and that was the problem. Idk! but I'd like to see a tornado
Since we are talking tornadoes now.....

http://www.ems.psu.edu/PA_Climatologist/State/patorn.html

I live in that big blank spot above the "10". I very clearly remember May 31st, 1985 because it was an absolute beautiful day where I was. It was incredible how calm the air was, but there was a very strange color to the light.

The following day, we woke up to huge amounts of debris in the yard. Everything from insulation, aluminum siding (no vinyl siding back then), wood, metal, even cloths.

I saw the damage of number 10. It was shocking. Number 10 was approximately 15 miles south of where I grew up. You could follow the path through the destruction and up over the tree covered hills. At 250 meters wide, it ripped every tree out of it's path and deposited them somewhere else. I haven't been down that way in years, but I can imagine it's possible to still see it's path.

$300-400 million in damages, 75 deaths, and 1000+ injuries that day.

I was 13 years old then.
So this thread has gone from stupid americans, to cheap americans, ignorance is bliss I guess. I dunno though, I don't think I'm stupid(But then how would I know?) and my house, I do all the work myself so I know it's rock solid, and it's not nearly as bad as some have said, but every house is different, and most are built in bulk, compare it to anything else, including cars, it's the same thing. But nobody really does anything about it, why? They would be paying more for their material items, and getting paid less to make them, our entire economy right down the toilet.

It's all about money, everything is about money, money money money, like it or not. Myself, I hate it, I hate materialism, at least on the scale I observe in my daily life, but I live in america where it's practiced like a freakin religeon. But who I am to say, just another pawn in the mix of it all. These topic's are too complex for public forum, lets talk about taco's, beef taco's!....?
... mmm, Tacos...

*drool*

I haven't eaten today, so sue me!
I find it funny how everything is fake in america
#96 - JTbo
Quote from Not Sure :I find it funny how everything is fake in america

No only there, we have been saved from most of that up until now, we start see more and more of stuff in shops that is not really what it tries to resemble.

Many of houses in here do have wooden structure, it is because wood has been readily available for centuries and there still has plenty of it, unlike in UK where they chopped big part of forests in early times and in many areas they had to use stone instead of wood.

Stone is much difficult to work with and even it has superior features over wood it is quite expensive to make house from stone.

Our brick houses are often with wood structure, so even it is real bricks outside it won't support much of weight and you can quite easily make hole to brick wall with sledgehammer too, think what wall will do when car is thrown against it at over 200kph?

It is good to know that those tv shows are not how in general things are done, I mean how you could live in house where in bathroom they put just little cardboard to wall and surface is attached straight there, when it will get wet it will get mould, silly shows.

As bad as Pimp my ride, where they just glue plate of steel to repair big hole in car floor, who really does such idiotic things?
Quote from JTbo :Our brick houses are often with wood structure, so even it is real bricks outside it won't support much of weight and you can quite easily make hole to brick wall with sledgehammer too, think what wall will do when car is thrown against it at over 200kph?

uh the same thing that will happen if you do that to a wooden house?
#98 - JTbo
Quote from Shotglass :uh the same thing that will happen if you do that to a wooden house?

Unless house is built like a cave, it will collapse from such impact

It is not problem to build house to withstand winds of tornado, but to take impacts of flying debris is going to be a problem and that is what makes tornadoes so dangerous.
Quote from JTbo :Unless house is built like a cave, it will collapse from such impact

uh... no
walls are always built to handle much more weight than they have to (at least if you build according to the DIN) and it would not fall apart from a hole as small as a car
if you want proof there are a couple of pictures with cars that drove right through walls in the caption competition thread and guess what the houses are still standing
Quote from Shotglass :uh... no
walls are always built to handle much more weight than they have to (at least if you build according to the DIN) and it would not fall apart from a hole as small as a car
if you want proof there are a couple of pictures with cars that drove right through walls in the caption competition thread and guess what the houses are still standing

Maybe not from one, but add full rig to that and it enters from one side of house exiting from another and there is HUGE hole after that

Well, point was that no matter what material is, it won't stand such powers involved.

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