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Wheel?
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Poll : What Wheel?

Logitech Driving Force Pro
47
Logitech Momo
17
Wheel?
What wheel should I buy, and why?

Logitech Momo ($75 USD)

or

Logitech Driving Force Pro ($104 USD)

Also, How does the Force Feedback in LFS work with these two wheels?


EDIT: Mods, move this to the Hardware forum. I'm a idiot :S
I have both wheels. DFP and Momo racing--

Get the DFP. It works great and is the most realistic. The ability to use the wheel in 720 degree mode is worth the extra scratch.
The Driving Force Pro (DFP) in my opinion is just more relaxed...your hands don't have to be gripping the wheel very hard to make a slight turn. You can even cruise with one hand perfectly fine.

Get the DFP man. It's well worth it.
ah looks like the DFP it is... Also, How does the FF in lfs work? and how does the software work, since it is for a PS2.
I just got a Logitech Driving Force Pro to replace my aging Wingman (red) one. I love the DFP. If you set each car to the correct type of rotation, it adds another level of realism to each car as they feel different. Also, driving an auto cross layout and having to use a proper steering technique (hand over hand, shuffle ...) really adds another level to the realism.

My old wheel was showing its age so I like the tight feel of the DFP. I also like having so many buttons on the wheel so I don't have to reach over to the keyboard so often.
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Quote from Roadie :ah looks like the DFP it is... Also, How does the FF in lfs work? and how does the software work, since it is for a PS2.

Ver 4.60 works perfect. It actually makes the DFP the most accurate FF wheel available.. It has more resolution than any FF wheel I should say.
#8 - Misko
DFP is leading by double the votes, but 7 people still recomended Momo. Nobody said why?
I have both- although the DFP is better overall- the momo has a few things that are really nice.. The shifter paddles are 100x better on the momo- Very big and and work great. The DFP- which needs bigger ones - uses tiny buttons on the back... makes it impossible to shift when turning the wheel 900 degrees really fast.

The wheels are the same diameter- I measured, but the momo has a thicker beefier wheel- feels really nice. The Momo's stick shifter can be moved from left to right easily. There are good sides to both, but the metal bearing in the DFP and the 900 degree rotation makes it the best.. All the buttons are icing on the cake. The tiny shifter paddles are the big downside.. but you can get used to them.

Pedals are about the same, but the revision B00 DFP has metal pots that are light years ahead of the old ones in the momo and older rev DFP. For LFS, the DFP is great though.. matching rotation with steering wheel rotation on the car in game ads a level of realism that the momo can never achieve.

The momo also has a big plastic bushing for the main bearing.. it loosens up over time and also makes more drag. If the momo had a metal bearing and 900 degrees of rotation.. it would be awesome.

I have an idea for a mod to the DFP that would give me some big shifter paddles without permanently modifying it. There is a spot on the shaft that you could secure a round clamp to- and off that clamp attach a piece of plastic shaped like a big shifter paddle and it would activate the button when you pulled it. I could make them really big too- a lot bigger than the momo's That would help shifting when cranking on the wheel.. There is about an inch of space to work with- it seems like it will be a fairly simple mod.. The only problem is the space between the wheel and the wheel base. It might be hard to get paddle in there without hitting your fingers on the base every time you shift. The momo's shaft is 3 times the length, and makes the wheel a lot farther away from the desk when clamped down..

That is another one the DFP's advantages though.. The footprint on the desk is way smaller, about half. It takes a lot less width and a a lot less depth.. The DFP is much smaller overall, which is great for smaller desks. It also extends beneath the desk only a tiny bit where the clamps are- the Momo had this huge contraption that hung down in the front about 3 inches. I was always banging my knees on it..

Anyway- I think for the price they are both great products- especially if you get a Rev. B00 DFP.. But the DFP will last longer with it's metal bearing and has the huge rotation.. Just for those reasons, the DFP is better overall even with it's tiny shifter paddle buttons.
yeah DFP good
#11 - Smp
Where can I see the DFP's revision number?
Where can I see the DFP revision number, when buying it in a shop?

There are often no opportunity to open a package-box in a shop.. Is revision number exist on package ?
Quote from Smp :Where can I see the DFP revision number, when buying it in a shop?

There are often no opportunity to open a package-box in a shop.. Is revision number exist on package ?

The revision number is inside the box. but probably most of the DFP:s sold now are the newest revision anyway. Better just make sure you don't buy a wheel that has been sitting in the storage long.
Quote from Smp :Where can I see the DFP revision number, when buying it in a shop?

There are often no opportunity to open a package-box in a shop.. Is revision number exist on package ?

On the manual's plastic bag- the sticker that rips when you open the bag no matter what you do..
Ok I know this is an old thread but I thought I would put my 2 cents worth in. A team member is considering buying a new wheel and directed me to this page.

I have owned both wheels. I ended up giving my DFP to my 9 year old brother. I cannot talk about the pedal as I use BRD Speed 7 pedals and I am very happy with them =) Here are the reasons why I stayed with Momo.

1. 900degrees of rotation; If your normal driving like city driving sure this is nice. But In racing if your using that much input you are putting too much wheel input into the car, even if your are correcting an error. Ideally your hands should never leave the 10-2 o'clock positions, even under the most severe of slow corners. (This is not by me but by professional drivers when I had my instruction)

2. Rack and Pinion wheel arrangement; This causes a flat spot whenever you change directions, under heavy FFB this is reduced but not gone 100%

3. The shifter paddles; I don't know if you can call these paddles, they are more like buttons in shape of a mini paddle that regularly doubletaps in my experience, but on upshift and downshift.

4. Smaller design; Yes it's nice, infact I loved it. But I couldn't keep it very stabile on my desk and I could flex it up and down, much more than I could with my Momo.

5. Force Feedback; If your upgrading from a Sidewinder then the FFB would be great. But when using the DFP for a couple weeks the FFB just wasn't as pleasent as it was on the Momo. There was that weak or deadspot coupled with a slower movement rate(revolutions per second) it just didn't feel nice.




Momo bearing issue; while metal bearings are better I have had my Momo for 2 years and I have not had a problem with it.

Even though I like my Momo a ton better than the DFP I did like the arrow pad on the wheel on top of all the extra buttons that were put on wheel of the DFP. Though there are so many some of the buttons are hard to reach.

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