Quote from duke_toaster :

...Volkswagen AG - Do a lot of motorsport already. ALMS, touring cars, DTM. Common theme with those is that they can sell customer cars (but don't for the first). They aren't averse the the concept, and them joining is possible but I wouldn't put money on it....

Audi, Seat or VW could not enter in F1 because they onle make boooooring diesel engines :moped:

Porsche or Lambo would be fine IMO

The only way Subaru or Mitsubishi would join F1 is if it became a lot cheaper and the cars used 4WD systems. Which isnt too crazy, both of those things have been suggested.

Ford could be join, because Cosworth is still a F1 engine supplier in theory, but no teams buy their engine.

Quote from NitroNitrous :

Audi, Seat or VW could not enter in F1 because they onle make boooooring diesel engines :moped:

Porsche or Lambo would be fine IMO

I think diesel engines is very interesting
& N/A petrol engine will be out:moped:

Quote from deggis :

Daimler AG (aka Mercedes) - in as engine suppliers



Just that? Matter of time when McLaren officially becomes Mercedes.

maybe it's the name of Mercedes team B

there are Chinese manufacturers are very ambition on Formula racing, their own one make race V6 Formula series will start in this years, & their 1.8L Formula series which start from 2006 will have their first oversea race, & maybe we can see that in Macau GP support race

If F1 allow Wankel Engine, Mazad will be join

Quote from duke_toaster :

PSA - Could do it, although they have motorsport commitments already.
Hyundai - Interestingly, they said they wanted to join. Who knows?
Suzuki - I can't see them considering it, sorry.
Daimler AG (aka Mercedes) - in as engine suppliers
Kia - If Hyundai/Kia were to go in, it would be as the former.
Tata - It sounds like it is comedy value, BUT. Tata is a very large company (doing more than just making cars) in India (as well as world wide), which is going to get a GP. Top that off with their recent aquisition of Land Rover, Jaguar, Daimler, Lanchester and Rover. Let's not forget that FI is in existance, as well.

Peugeot was into F1 for quite some years already in the past.
Although Kia/Hyundai look good to go into F1, they are a long way to go considering how many years did it take Toyota to build a midfield car.
Suzuki is there as Super Aguri, in a way, but not officially supported by Suzuki, the car maker, I agree (Super Aguri references to Aguri Suzuki, who as far as I know was a F1 driver and owns either partially or fully Suzuki).
Mercedes is there as McLaren-Mercedes, however it's not only an engine supplier but also has shares on McLaren, so they are there.
And I thought Tata was there as Force India? As Super Aguri, not directly coming from the father company, but from the owner.

Feel free to correct me, just talking out of what I remember.

Quote from scania :

Ford could be join, because Cosworth is still a F1 engine supplier in theory, but no teams buy their engine.

Agreed, they could even revamp old names like 'Arrows', even though it is unlikely that they would fight for more than midfield.

Quote from scania :

there are Chinese manufacturers are very ambition on Formula racing, their own one make race V6 Formula series will start in this years, & their 1.8L Formula series which start from 2006 will have their first oversea race, & maybe we can see that in Macau GP support race

If F1 allow Wankel Engine, Mazad will be join

F1 used to be a showcase of technical innovations where brands used to show their strength, both financial and technological, to get better reputation. Nowadays they limited everything so much it's barely a matter of who had the best engine when they regulated them, who gets the best chassis before pre-season ends and who has the best driver. Not that amusing after all the gadgets that plagued F1 on the 90's.

As a distasteful move, FIA banned rotatory engines after a Madza 767 (or so) won in one of their competitions. But they banned also cars with more or less than 4 wheels, 4-wheel-traction, ESP, ABS, turbo technology... It's putting there in a place where they are probably going towards a technology that is going to be obsolete pretty soon. I can imagine kids in 2012 : 'Lolz! F1 use atmospheric engines! I just found out!!111!!11 LolZ1!! Teh l00zers!'.

Euh... I refrain from anyone quoting that last sentence, I will deny it's mine.

Aguri Suzuki has nothing to do with the Suzuki company...well except for sharing his surname with the founder of Suzuki motor corp. Honda would never let anyone related to the Suzuki company run something they developed, corporate spying is bad enough as it is.

I also don't see ANY american company entering F1 anytime soon, they are all in serious debt and struggling to stay afloat. Can't see one of them spending billions over X years to get into F1.
Same reason why i doubt any car manufacturer will join soonish...costs are way too high and they would only soil their brandname by getting bad results for years. Even the largest engine ( =/ car ) manufacturer Honda is having real trouble becoming halfway competitive, which is hurting their brandname. Or Jaguar when they tried to run an F1 team.

Same for VAG ,they would be behind Merc and BMW for years and become the laughingstock of the german automobile world..so unless they can buy out a company like red bull or better i don't see them join. Though imo they are the sole, not yet involved, carmanufacturer who has a chance at being competitive in modern F1.

VAG is prolly way too interested in Le Mans anyway since they have a chance with TDI there. When there's a TDI option for F1, then we can talk. TDI is a BIG thing for VAG, that's the thing.

Quote from Primoz :

VAG is prolly way too interested in Le Mans anyway since they have a chance with TDI there. When there's a TDI option for F1, then we can talk. TDI is a BIG thing for VAG, that's the thing.

Well, since VAG owns Lamborghini, it is not a desesperate guess that as a group they might be present on F1. Also, they are quite wealthy as of now and could attempt it.

Another matter is which team should they buy, thinking that Toro Rosso and Super Aguri might be on sale quite soon...

Quote from scania :

Ford could be join, because Cosworth is still a F1 engine supplier in theory, but no teams buy their engine.

Sorry for double posting, but Ford and Cosworth have nothing in common. Compared to Ford, Cosworth is a garage sized engine developer and maker (and engine parts maker too, take a look at the Litchfield Type-25 Impreza). Sure, everybody remembers the Escort Cosworth - they were behind Fords F1 engines and rally cars. But that connections has been broken off a while ago

Quote from DeMS :

Well, since VAG owns Lamborghini, it is not a desesperate guess that as a group they might be present on F1. Also, they are quite wealthy as of now and could attempt it.

Another matter is which team should they buy, thinking that Toro Rosso and Super Aguri might be on sale quite soon...

We have discussed that, Bugatti or Lamborghini and i figured it'd be Lamborghini since it's doing well. Only the Veyron was made under the Bugatti brand so i see it more or less as a single car make, revived just for the history book (and the car IS made just as a proof of concept). Would be nice if Porsche slapped heir logo on the thing but Porsche wants to sell their cars. Customer engines maybe? And then make a chassis after having a good engine.

Quote from DeMS :

And I thought Tata was there as Force India?

No. The guy that runs Tata is Ratan Tata, Force India is owned by Vijay Mallya, who owns Kingfisher, a brewery, two football teams and a team in the IPL.

Quote from DeMS :

As a distasteful move, FIA banned rotatory engines after a Madza 767 (or so) won in one of their competitions.

After Mazda 787B won Le Mans 1991. Then again rotary engines would have been banned later anyway when FIA tried to fix something that wasn't broken and changed the engine rules to 3.5L which eventually turned out to be FIA's master plan to destroy World Sportscar Championship.

ACO's current Le Mans actually do allow rotary engines...