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Yes they chose to leave us with an option of a proper naturally aspirated drivers car with an H-pattern gearbox

FZR having H is quite reasonable because FZR-like Porsche's previous GT2-class model (996 GT3 RS??) had one in 2005. Since then it finally got seqential afaik. And even then it was the only major* model to have H-pattern in GT2.

* excludes those random apparitions like Morgan Aero etc.

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as is popular with drivers/teams where a sequential gearbox is not a required part of the looking high tech image.

You can't be serious.

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Even BMW recognised the potential value of H-pattern gearboxes in endurance races, useful for keeping drivers involved and awake with the driving experience in long stints.

You mean BMW M3 GTR? The BMWs in WTCC still has H-pattern. Might be a cost thing too. Or when they have perfected it, why try to fix it if they don't feel that it's disadvantage.

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Generally they look high tech and complicated, having an analogue tacho on a colour LCD screen just takes the biscuit for complete stupidity and over complication. Some people will prefer them, that's fine but a significant minority don't like them and want conventional instrumentation, both in RL and in sim racing.

You have already said this.

I'd like too if time just went back 30 years and drivers would need to be real men again. But LFS is trying to represent modern day racing, and I see it from that point of view.


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Quote from deggis :

FZR having H is quite reasonable because FZR-like Porsche's previous GT2-class model (996 GT3 RS??) had one in 2005. Since then it finally got seqential afaik. And even then it was the only major* model to have H-pattern in GT2.

The Porsches were all customer cars, built by private teams to whatever specification they wanted. 911s have largely run with sequential gearboxes for years, including the Cup cars. It's only due to their popularity with privateers that H-pattern 911s still exist.

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* excludes those random apparitions like Morgan Aero etc.

The only Morgan Aero 8 to be used in competition with an H-pattern gearbox was a completely standard one that raced in the Morgan Challenge. All the GT cars have used sequential 'boxes.

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You can't be serious.

Absolutely. A lot of the changes made to racing cars are for cosmetic reasons.

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You mean BMW M3 GTR? The BMWs in WTCC still has H-pattern. Might be a cost thing too. Or when they have perfected it, why try to fix it if they don't feel that it's disadvantage.

Don't the touring cars have different weight limits for different gearboxes though? I'd also have said that for short races in very easy to drive cars the driver endurance/engagement factor is less important than out right lap speed.

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I'd like too if time just went back 30 years and drivers would need to be real men again. But LFS is trying to represent modern day racing, and I see it from that point of view.

LFS currently simulates a rather broad age range, the road cars are mostly somewhat dated, lighter and less powerful and far more fun to drive than current cars.

+1 to proper in-car lcd displays for road cars

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Don't the touring cars have different weight limits for different gearboxes though?

Yes, 30(iirc)kg extra for a sequential.

I kinda like the MoTeC in GTR2, something similiar would be nice.
On the otherhand, big fat no for those huge LCD displays.