Look man alot of people have been asking me how to get thier server up and i thought doing this would be nice for the community and for the people that just need a little bit more help when creating there server ok!
so please dont come in here and start saying things like that ok i put my time and effort into making this guide and you come in here with an attitude that is very poor and disrespecting
Erm, not that I mind another guide but there are some issues with this one which I'm pointing out as I notice them. It's nothing personal, sorry.
1. It's riddled bad ideas. For "noobs" this doesn't matter, but if the "noob" wants to learn more you're leading them down a bad path.
2. You don't need to use a loopback adapter to connect to your own server. That's the whole point of 127.0.0.1 (a default loopback if you will). You've also demonstrated putting 123.123.123.123 as the IP with a subnet mask of 255.0.0.0. That's a non reserved IP and should NEVER EVER be used for private LAN usage.
3. I see no reason for telling someone to setup a loopback adapter. Whilst I've mentioned this twice, it's such a big issue I thought I'd mention it twice. If you were making a virtual machine be the server and were connecting your VM to that loopback and then preforming NAT between the 2 networks on the physical machine then I could understand. However you've made no reference to doing that. I will repeat, there is no need for a loopback adapter.
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Err... if you're incapable of properly configuring your firewall software/hardware then you shouldn't be running a server in my opinion. Sorry.
4. Your bandwidth assumptions - why? There is a documented formula and there's the calculator in the full version of LFS.
5. Your pps explanation isn't 100% accurate.
My biggest issue is that the number one thing that a "noob" doesn't get is why you need to port forward or even that it needs to be done, and you've done the exact same thing I've done, which is to just point people at portforward.com. There is a legitimate reason for doing so, but it's a shame.
I'm giving you constructive criticism. It's not like I've said "OMGWTFZ THAT's SHIT UR POOO D0000D" is it?
I'm not stopping you from writing your own guide. Please feel free. If you want to carry on supporting people then please do, I'm fed up with it tbh.
I've not been rude. I've not attacked the colour scheme of your opening post (that was hard tbh). I'm giving you friendly advice on correcting the post. So what's the problem here?
If you want to have a strop then feel free, it's no skin off my nose.
your pretty much saying politely how sht my guide is!!
as a mod u should be at least showing some sort of positive to someone putting in a effort to help the lfs community
your pathetic!
a thankyou for atleast trying would be nice!
but instead i get a douche and a mod thats a know it all!
He is being nice. Hes a god and is a system admin afaik(Sorry for being nosy karl ). So he does this kinda thing for a living. He was giving you general advice. You just didnt see it that way.
I think we've heard enough of this language and seen enough of the personal attacks. Eclipse2000 has earned an infraction for breeching the forum's agreement multiple times in succession.
I've quoted the below for you again.
The fact that you're giving people bad advice is the issue here. It may get their server working but there are bad practises demonstrated.
I meant that as a thank you, and I assume you didn't take it as such. Let me take this opportunity to say thank you.
So regardless of whether or not it is good advice I'm supposed to drop all my knowledge and opinions?
I'm sorry to bring it up but it was a conception that I had in my younger years that people with any sembilance of control should no longer have an opinion and should act as a whole. But quite frankly this is unreasonable. We're all people here and at the end of the day I am personally going to have an opinon over anything. If I could take off the moderator "hat" to post normally then I would.
I'm being polite. I've not been rude. I've pointed out mistakes.
I don't know everything. I've never said I know everything. I've never implied that I know everything. I do know about computer systems and networking though because thats my job. I don't know everything about this stuff, and I'll happily admit that. I'm not that arrogant.
I'll happily admit that I can't do many things. I can't manage solaris well (little practical experience). I can't manage every single router under the sun. I'm not all that familiar with juniper boxes. I don't know enough about ipv6 to feel confident putting it in. My drawing skills are ****ing awful. I can't paint. I have all sorts of personal problems which I'm sure make you a better person than me.
Shall I go on to make you happy? How far do I have to go to prove the point?
the_angry_angel i understand ur point but next time someone puts time into making a guide please dont post how they should make it better it just puts people spiraling into a thought of being useless to the community!
This is a great thread for showing someone how to setup a server now. I think I finally know, So hold on..You call people names, And your server is done. Ha, So easy!
For the record, Eclipse2000 has been dealt with by me rather than Karl (responding to several reported posts from different people). However, Karl could just as easily have given the infraction/s, and would NOT have been abusing his "godlike mod powers". I trust there is no misunderstanding here, Eclipse2000 is entirely responsible for his infractions. They were based entirely on HIS OWN actions.
Holding a strong opinion is one thing, and of course it's welcome here. Abusing other members, or abusing the privilege of being able to post here is an entirely different thing. This forum is free for anyone to use. It's not part of your LFS licence, and demo racers can also post, but you ARE bound by the forum agreement and are required to behave within its confines.