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Momo Red, Black or DFP?
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I use the DFP on full 900° and in contrary to what someone said before, it doesn't make me slower. It's just you have get the hang of it. I do have a question tho. Someone said when you use a non 900° mode, you get a hard force feedback to stop you from turning further. On my wheel that only happens if it's on 200° (I get the "soft" stop) but in any other mode, I just feel a little nudge, and I can steer over the limit I set. Is this my wheel, or is it normal? I'm not really using other modes, but I would like to know this.
That's normal. The 'hard lock' is only available in 200 degrees mode. It's the one you can hear clicking loudly when switching between 200 degrees and 200+ degrees. It's not a force feedback effect though, it's a hardware stop that has only 2 positions: 200 degrees lock, 900 degrees lock.

For any other setting, the steering wheel will use it's force feedback to simulate the turning ends. So yes, you can easily turn beyond these limits since the power of the force feedback is limited, but turning further doesn't affect your in-game turning circle. It would have been nice if they'd allowed hard locks in a lot more positions, but that would probably have made the wheel more expensive. Money they better use for a better set of pedals

Btw, you use the full 900° rotation mode. That's a bit pointless as it makes you have to steer a lot more than the cars do in reality. Streetcars (also the ones in LFS) have a full turning circle of 720°, racing cars (like the GTR class in LFS) 540° and open wheel racers even less (I believe 270°, but I'm not sure - I never drive these cars).
I have both the DFP and the Momo Red. There are things I like about both, Buttons on DFP and overall feel and the peddles of the Red. I use the Red only in online races as I'm partial to paddle shifting and Red is way better there. The wheel shape and feel is nicer on the Red also. In my opinion, anyone that uses over 360 deg of rotation is just over working their shoulders and arms on most cars in LFS.
Yes, there is a Force motor stop on the DFP that is very noticable.
I'm toying with the idea of getting a wheel and like many people am tied between getting the DFP or Momo. However it seems that most people still favour the DFP over the Momo, but it also seems that some people don't use all the buttons on the DFP.

So I'm wondering is it really worth getting the DFP and go for the Momo with (arguably) a better grip and pedals and a better looking gear stick (IMO). The 900 degrees turning on the DFP sounds attractive, but again not many actually use it. Oh, decisions, decisions decisions!!!
just get the dfp. . its much more fun and immersive to have to steer as much as you should have to. like with the GTRs i use 540 degrees lock so its a more realistic experience than 200 or 270
Quote from Zero7 :I'm toying with the idea of getting a wheel and like many people am tied between getting the DFP or Momo. However it seems that most people still favour the DFP over the Momo, but it also seems that some people don't use all the buttons on the DFP.

So I'm wondering is it really worth getting the DFP and go for the Momo with (arguably) a better grip and pedals and a better looking gear stick (IMO). The 900 degrees turning on the DFP sounds attractive, but again not many actually use it. Oh, decisions, decisions decisions!!!

Throw a coin.

Quote from Gabkicks :just get the dfp. . its much more fun and immersive to have to steer as much as you should have to. like with the GTRs i use 540 degrees lock so its a more realistic experience than 200 or 270

Yeah, I keep asking why would I use my FFShifter because I'm definately not faster with it. The ideal situation would be that everyone had 720 degree wheel, shifter and clutch. Some certain aspects in sims can't progress (like clutch emulation) before that happens.
#32 - Vain
Quote from deggis :Yeah, I keep asking why would I use my FFShifter because I'm definately not faster with it.

I use an FFShifter. Even in event-races. Perhaps I could be faster without, and perhaps I'd have less stress if the fifth gear didn't like to pop out because the FFmotor gets too warm after an hour, but I like the fact that I need to place my shifts right. I need to shift after a corner because I have to leave the steering wheel to one hand for a considerable amount of time. I like the fact that I sometimes do a bad shift and lose time because I didn't pay enough attention (...and even lose some hp because of engine damage, if I'm unlucky).

It's all about immersion.
(please read that twice, once for FFShifters, once for wheels)

Vain
Quote from Gabkicks :just get the dfp. . its much more fun and immersive to have to steer as much as you should have to. like with the GTRs i use 540 degrees lock so its a more realistic experience than 200 or 270

Yeah, I am leaning more towards the DFP. Just researching the intarweb thingy

Quote from deggis :Throw a coin.

Do you know what, why not, I might just give that a go
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