Hey hey,

I was thinking about updating my current system. But I don’t know much about the best cpu what we have current…

My pc is a hp M7390.nl (but I did some upgrades before)

Just some specs:

cpu amd athlon 64 3700+ - 64-bits
memory 1 gb ddr sdram + 512 mb ddr(update what I made before)
graphic card sapphire x1950 pro (512mb)
main board msi MS-7184

you can find the info from the main board here (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfr ... lc=en&lc=en&cc=us)

i was thinking of updating the cpu, but I think I need to upgrade my main board too.

Any ideas for a nice upgrade, I would like to go to a system what I can update later on again.

My budget is not unknown yet. But not sky-high.

Greets,

Reintjan

As your on 939 theres very little you can do - you could upgrade to a Dual Core CPU, but beyond that everything will be expensive by a lot - a 4400+ would be the same CPU as you have now, but with 2 cores...

Beyond that the best thing you could do is sell it all and upgrade to an Intel / Core 2 / DDR2 build, unfortunately...

I was in the same situation a few years back (but with 1 GB of RAM and a 7950GT), and the only thing I could really do was go for an Opteron 165 (as I was going to overclock), but for virtually the same price I sold my mobo / CPU / RAM and bought the stuff I have now (basically).

If you wanted to, 2 GB of DDR2, a new mobo and a cheap E2180 CPU (which could be overclocked if required). would set you back around £130, but then you could get some back by selling the old stuff...

What's your PSU?

Quote from Jakg :

If you wanted to, 2 GB of DDR2, a new mobo and a cheap E2180 CPU (which could be overclocked if required). would set you back around £130, but then you could get some back by selling the old stuff...

What's your PSU?

it is a 500watt PSU

well i can spent more the 130 pound ,
my budget will be 300 euro , what is 230 pound.

so you think that the best thing for me is going to intel

I have got to the point now where I can no longer upgrade my 939pin motherboard just cant take anymore upgrades, in the last 2 years I have been careful in getting upgrades that will go in later computers and will be getting some upgrades like you soon.

I do recommend Jakg's suggestion. One thing though is I looked up your computer and the case is micro-ATX, so they are shorter motherboards with fewer slots for future upgradability.

I therefore recommend a new case that houses an ATX motherboard...a cheap case can be picked up for that so its not a big deal.

Well the best upgrade you will get for your PC would be a Dual Core CPU, and for £60+ you could get a 2.8 GHz Dual Core, but that's not a mega upgrade considering that double that would get you something faster that would still give you stuff to sell and give you room to upgrade.

For £230 (sorry to use the £, but I don't know the prices in €!) you could get 4 GB of RAM, a nice motherboard and something like an E8200. If your comfortable with buying used you could get something like a second hand E6750 which would be a hell of a lot cheaper.

EDIT - Cheap case = £30, usually. ATM i know eBuyer (UK retailer only, sorry!) sell a £30 case plus a £45-ish 450w PSU for £50 all in, and you could always sell the spare PSU...

Quote from Jakg :

EDIT - Cheap case = £30, usually. ATM i know eBuyer (UK retailer only, sorry!) sell a £30 case plus a £45-ish 450w PSU for £50 all in, and you could always sell the spare PSU...

the case is a but my problem ,
becasue the case what i have now fits well in my room ,
and i have a personal hhd space in my case,(160gb)
so my idea was making a update but stay in the same case , if thats possible

greets,

Reint jan

Micro-ATX are still available. You dont lose any speed with them, not sure if you lose any overclocking ability.

Good thing is they are cheap

Quote from spacedskunk :

You dont lose any speed with them, not sure if you lose any overclocking ability.

Usually M-ATX mobo's are very poor overclockers, and ARE slightly slower than the ATX counterparts (there is a difference between the speed of mobo's btw, even when the NB / SB is the same.

Quote from Jakg :

Usually M-ATX mobo's are very poor overclockers, and ARE slightly slower than the ATX counterparts (there is a difference between the speed of mobo's btw, even when the NB / SB is the same.

No doubt it probably will be slower, it just shouldnt be noticable.

Sorry, just being pedantic - usually M-ATX mobo's are less than 5% slower (i.e. unnoticable), but "top quality" mobo's (such as those £120 Asus / Gigabyte jobbies) have a habit of boosting the FSB slightly (from 266 to 270, for example) cheekily overclocking the CPU by a tiny bit and meaning n00b PC reviewers give them "ultra 1337 fast" awards.

i have a opty 180.. running stock at 2.4ghz.
Im not gonna be a lil kid and say i never overclocked it, cause i did. I hit 2.9ghz running @ 28-29 idle.. 35-38 windows apps, 40-43 games.
which was pretty amazing.

BUT, since i have 3gb of ram, and all different rams, it was unstable.

so if you're interested in gettin a opty 180 PM me..
i bought it for $170 brand new in box... about.. a month ago ?