yup was playing historic GT mod online, with more than a dozen car on the grid with all sorts of different engine roaring.......was amazing

Yea downloaded the 1979 F1 series....so much fun man. Driving around Monaco in a 1979 Ferrari F1, one thing I do give to rfactor is it gives you a sense of speed which a I find LFS does not.

mainly because of the camera shaking, and rattling sounds.

I turned the shaking down a lot since that's not really realistic and made me really dizzy.

rFactor has the Nordschleife.
It also coould have been a half-decent game, if they didn't go with that crappy old ISI-engine.
Also, why do you think people couldn't buy both, rFactor and LFS?

On a side note: Keep creating useless threads (as this is clearly only about bashing rFactor) and insulting other forum members, and I'm sure one of our dear moderators will help you cool down for a bit.

Quote from migf1 :

As Becky already wrote, GTL and GTR2 are derivatives of rfactor (and GTR from EA F1Ch) and not the other way around.

The key word is "immersion". rfactor is way more immersive than LFS and with the proper mods, realfeel ffb and a G25 it can even beat LFS in many areas, including handling!

You can't easily beat the experience of driving, full manually, an 1976 escort rs or a Porsche GT3 RSR on "the Mother"!

You got it there

Another example, I got rfactor and MMG07 mod(F1), I went racing at Bathurst and I really thought I was in that car. When I tried the same with LFS, it didn't feel quite right.

However that said I drove terrible in rFactor because of my racing wheel, when I got LFS, the wheel was perfect for it.

One of the major differenced I've found between rFactor and LFS is that in rFactor, I've *never* been able to get in an online game. Well, once for about a minute, but it kicked me out.

Mustang said it.

With the Mods its fun for one Hour or some events but not more.

when i get my new pc i am definatly gonna try rfactor out

Quote from Crashgate3 :

One of the major differenced I've found between rFactor and LFS is that in rFactor, I've *never* been able to get in an online game. Well, once for about a minute, but it kicked me out.

It sounds like you either suffer a version conflict (track, mod and/or the sim itself) or you tried with a cracked version of the sim.

Quote from tl8roy :

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However that said I drove terrible in rFactor because of my racing wheel, when I got LFS, the wheel was perfect for it.

Yeap, that's the main drawback of rf. You need a G25 and you need it correctly set too (both ingame and in the drivers... utlimetely, in realfeel also)! Although, it is also car dependant.

I tried 'realfeel' and thought it was crap

It is sometimes, depending on the car. It needs tweaking too to get it feel right. On the other hand, it can be set with different settings for each car... so if you invest some time to get it where you want for one car, it won't affect the handling of the other cars! It also comes with a console, so you can watch the spikes and the rest of your force-feedback in orfer to make it suit you best. You can always copy & paste your final settings to another car's section in RealFeelPlugin.ini if you want to

I want the option for "Other" or "Its their life and they are free to choose what they want and who are we to judge them without knowing them" where are those options?

Quote from migf1 :

you tried with a cracked version of the sim.

haha..

No, I am a fully paid-up owner thank you very much....

I also found the only mods being played were mods I didn't particularly want to use. Where's the 'track-day-at-Nurburgring-Tourist' I was expecting to be massively used?

Quote from herki :

It also coould have been a half-decent game, if they didn't go with that crappy old ISI-engine.

The engine isn't the problem, it does have limitations, but if used to its full potential it is probably as good as LFS overall in terms of physics modeling, the problem is it is only after 10 years with the engine that people have started to use common sense and try feeding sensible inputs into rather than just botching for the correct result.

Quote from migf1 :

It sounds like you either suffer a version conflict (track, mod and/or the sim itself) or you tried with a cracked version of the sim.

nah it doesn't have cpw i got on a server ssh

OK, so if I do buy rFactor, what are the 'must have' cars/tracks/mods/whatever?

Quote from J@tko :

OK, so if I do buy rFactor, what are the 'must have' cars/tracks/mods/whatever?

Corvette!!! Top Gear test track!!!

I tired it and It does look great, but I couldn't get my G25 working in the same way in LFS. As in the FFB was all screwed up and liked to "pull" all the way to one side.

Quote from J@tko :

OK, so if I do buy rFactor, what are the 'must have' cars/tracks/mods/whatever?

Realfeel plugin and Leo's FFB plugin, most of the mods will still feel shite but it's the best you can do i'm afraid.

Get the Historic GT mod, great fun to drive! Also, as mentioned above the Corvette is essential.

As for tracks, there are really too many to choose from! Obviously Nordschleife, most of them are built to a pretty good quality anyway.

I'd avoid the f179 mod though, unless you eat understeer for breakfast.

Quote from J@tko :

OK, so if I do buy rFactor, what are the 'must have' cars/tracks/mods/whatever?

Historic GT (you will need a GTL disc to install it) and VLM's Mid Ohio will keep you going for a while

Quote from jaws99 :

Nordschleife

this must be a historic moment... the first time a brit has spelled that word correct on this forum
if we can also teach him that the straigt at le mans isnt called mulsanne we might be able to make the closest thing to a proper european out of him

Why do people buy cars? Why do people buy gas? Who really gives a shit!

Why do people make stupid threads? Why do some people crave attention more than others?

Quote from Shotglass :

this must be a historic moment... the first time a brit has spelled that word correct on this forum
if we can also teach him that the straigt at le mans isnt called mulsanne we might be able to make the closest thing to a proper european out of him

Thank you very much :P

Thanks for those guys - I might be buying it soon

BTW, I've just updated my demo from v1.150 to v1.255, and the demo goes from being unlimited to being a 60 min demo lol