Something of similar nature would be awesome though. Case in point, there's a hillclimb track thread I've been watching - something narrow and twisty with lots of elevation change, and a mid-3 minute average lap in a TBO car, would be incredible.
Just a personal thought though. I feel that would be an excellent way to make great use of LFS' physics and suspension tuning depth.
+1. i really do hope this happens. most people obviously want it to. i wouldnt care if hacks got out and rubbish tracks got made because LFS fans would only want to play the official ones anyway!
i actually thought of that. perhaps the track is too thin and doesnt leave as much room to lay down traditional track driving techniques as weve come to like with tracks like Aston.
i didnt say i dont want it. just that it "may" not be as good of a racing track as we would have thought. especially as there are few if any overtaking points. i can see very easily it turning into carnage as one driver spins off and bounces from barrier to barrier taking out others in the process. theres no run offs or gravel traps to stop the car doing this like there is at Aston etc.
on the plus side i can see it giving a good sense of speed and making for some pretty challenging and demanding hotlaps. also learning the circuit would be good for when people do actually make their pilgrimage to Germany i think it will also attract more people to the game.
all in all people have to be prepared that its more of a novelty track than anything else.
I feel that people like Jim Clark, James Hunt and Dan Gurney to name just a few, would not agree with anything that you have said.
They always managed to get around without crashing or taking people out because it requires a higher level of concentration than racing on the billiard table types of circuits that you mention?
Ask yourself how many people have raced in the Isle of Man for both the TT and Manx GP races and lived to tell the tale.
Like every circuit, you go as fast as the track will allow you to, to exceed that margin is careless and just plain stupid.
exactly correct and you only support my argument. how many online racers have the skill level of Jim Clark and co? pretty much none. most people cant even make it through T1 let alone T50 on a tight cirtcuit where nobody can overtake but just follow the tail, blocking others off. its a recipe for disaster. and what about lag? if one person lags everybody behind them is finished.
im not arguing that it cannot be raced on. clearly it is raced on! what were saying is that it wont make for good/fair sim racing.
Actually i think that THATS why the ring is "different". it has its own feel, and thats why i think soo many people like it., it and the fact that it has more than 20km of track. I see NO reason to NOT make it in LFS at ALL, OTHER than i hardly see it happening thought.
Watch out, that might come across as an anti-demo-user-opinion! :P
To the topic: as much as I lived to drive on the ring, I doubt it'll ever see the light of day, at least as long as there isn't mod support (which I am against BTW :P )
Also, I don't think it would be too narrow for LfS, and I don't really see a problem racing on it other than the field spreading on the first half of the first lap and making everyone hotlapping.
Also, at least in those racing games I have which feature the ring, I personally had most fun trying to master it all by myself, even though I am not a hotlapper and generally find driving alone dull.
Well, for normal pick-up racing with a very spread-out skill level it would soon become a hotlapping style "fight the track, not the man", but it would REALLY shine in endurance, mixed-class racing...