I've had this in my mind for a year or so just never thought of posting it to see if theres any faults in it.

Basically its a theory on flying, as in supernatural kind of flying, the kinda thing superman does. The whole theory is based on the fact that flying is defying ALL laws of gravity. If anyone was ever to "learn" to fly then this may not be the actual cause. But for my theory to work then flight must be defying all laws of gravity.




Now everyone thinks that flying would be fine and dandy, and that people would just be able to take off and float around safely. But what if the second anybody who was flying left the ground was to die?

Everyone forgets the fact that we're held to the earth via gravity. If we were to defy gravity and fly we wouldnt just float around. iirc(<-Sarcasm) the world is constantly spinning and moving so if someone was to defy gravity they wouldnt be held to the earth, meaning they would stay still and i mean completely still, as in their absolutely still, their not spinning around at 300,000 mph or whatever it is that the world spins at.

So as soon as they came off the ground then the earth which is still spinning and moving would hit them.

Either

A. It will be rotating so that means that buildings/rocks/anything at all would go into the person whos flying because the earth is still rotating and he is not.

Or

B. The earth is still moving around the sun so the earth may suddenly speed off from the person who is flying, or do the opposite and crash into him.

Or even

C. Do both.



Bassicly nobody would be able to fly, becuase the momment they took off they would die, either by being hit by an object thats on the earth, being hit by the earth itself, or if the earth moves away then they would die because their in space and have no oxygen.

The only solution to this would be to fly at the same speed as the earth, in the same direction whilst also rotating around the earth at the same speed that it rotates at. But this would be extremely hard lol.


So bassicly my theory is that, if you learn to defy the laws of gravity and fly, then your ****ed



If you still dont quite understand my theory please ask, and if you can find any faults in it please say so

So if you leave contact with the earth, then the spinning earth would catch up with you?

Good theory, but remember inertia.

Does a fly in a car on a motorway fly backwards when they stop holding on inside the car and take off...?

BTW - Hai Lerts.

i guess som1 wants to be "pre S3-licensed"

Quote from Jakg :

So if you leave contact with the earth, then the spinning earth would catch up with you?

Good theory, but remember inertia.

Does a fly in a car on a motorway fly backwards when they stop holding on inside the car and take off...?

BTW - Hai Lerts.

I have no clue what intiia is.

This doesnt link to a fly though, because the fly and the car are both being affected by gravity, where as someone who is flying isnt.


See the thing thats holding the earth in place? Imagine that was someone who was flying. Now imagine you spin the earth, the earth is spinning but that thing holding it up is still in the same place. Its that idea, but theres also the fact that the earth would be moving as well as rotating.

And lerts?
As in that guy who talks random crap?

Quote from Scrabby :

i guess som1 wants to be "pre S3-licensed"

Eh?! lol

But Jakg, if he wants to defy one of the basic laws of physics, why not all of them? illepall

This thread is stupid and pointless.

What the fcuk are you talking about? :wtf2:

Quote from Forbin :

But Jakg, if he wants to defy one of the basic laws of physics, why not all of them?

No no no no, only the laws of gravity, if all the laws of physics were to be defied then if anything was to hit the person flying they wouldn't get hit by it, they would just sort of fall into it.
Although fair enough if one law of physics was to be defied then all could be. But lets just imagine it was only the laws of gravity that was defied?

So Gravity is the reason why fly inside a car doesn't move...?

Question - Did you pass GCSE Physics?

I think he found Lerts' stash.
:banana_ra

Quote from Jakg :

So Gravity is the reason why fly inside a car doesn't move...?

Question - Did you pass GCSE Physics?

I'm still at school, so then no. Perhaps you'd like to explain it? or if you cant be arsed just explain how that means my theory is a pile of *steaming bananas go here*

Quote from Forbin :

I think he found Lerts' stash.

Edit:
Whoot GO GOOGLE!!

Quote :

The air inside your car is traveling with your car with the same speed of your car. The mosquito is flying inside the moving air and does not think of it or realize the movement of the air inside. Think of an airplane flying carrying the air we breath in the cabin with a mosquito in the air.The same principal applies. The mosquito flies within that moving region of air

If thats true that still has nothing to do with my theory XD


Second Edit: UNLESS you mean that even if we were to defy gravity we would still be inside the moving air therefore nothing would fly off/into us?

I was watching a basketball game the other day. This guy jumped to make a shot and he was immediately whacked in the back of the head by the hoop at the other end of the court. Stupid idiot forgot he would get pwned by the rotation of the earth.

There is no such thing as being "absolutely still". You're currently moving with the earth and even if you'd remove gravity you would still be moving at the same velocity in relation to everything else, including the earth. In order for earth to suddenly hit you with high velocity either you or the earth would need to rapidly accelerate, which is not going to happen. If you'd remain gravityless for a long period, the air in the atmosphere would most likely still push & pull you with the earth even when it slowly changes direction.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I was watching a basketball game the other day. This guy jumped to make a shot and he was immediately whacked in the back of the head by the hoop at the other end of the court. Stupid idiot forgot he would get pwned by the rotation of the earth.

I'm loling bad xD

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I was watching a basketball game the other day. This guy jumped to make a shot and he was immediately whacked in the back of the head by the hoop at the other end of the court. Stupid idiot forgot he would get pwned by the rotation of the earth.

:| Calm down, in my theory that wouldn't happen When he jumps he is still affected by gravity, therefore the hoop at the other end WOULDNT hit him. Ty very much.

Edit: acctually thats quite funny :L

Quote from Kegetys :

There is no such thing as being "absolutely still". You're currently moving with the earth and even if you'd remove gravity you would still be moving at the same velocity in relation to everything else, including the earth. In order for earth to suddenly hit you with high velocity either you or the earth would need to rapidly accelerate, which is not going to happen. If you'd remain gravityless for a long period, the air in the atmosphere would most likely still push & pull you with the earth even when it slowly changes direction.

So gravity is not the only thing holding you to the earth? The air is pulling us along too?

So even if the gravity went and instantly the earth was moving at 300,000mph or whatever it is not even for a split second would we move from where we were?

If there was no gravity, you would get crushed even without leaving the ground. I guess.
If you are still in the atmosphere

Quote from Migz :

So even if the gravity went and instantly the earth was moving at 300,000mph or whatever it is not even for a split second would we move from where we were?

Moving relative to what? Why would your "personal" gravity going away suddenly change the earth's velocity?

Gravity between you and earth pulls you towards the earth and the earth towards you. If your speed relative to the earth is zero, then the earths speed relative to you is zero also. Removing gravity does not suddenly make one of you accelerate to 300000mph (or whatever) relative to the other.

Quote from Kegetys :

Moving relative to what? Why would your "personal" gravity going away suddenly change the earth's velocity?

Gravity between you and earth pulls you towards the earth and the earth towards you. If your speed relative to the earth is zero, then the earths speed relative to you is zero also. Removing gravity does not suddenly make one of you accelerate to 300000mph (or whatever) relative to the other.

The earth is constantly moving is it not? And so i thought because of gravity we were held to the earth and were moving at the same speed as it was. And if someone was to remove the gravity from us we would no longer be held to the earth and it would continue moving at the speed it was moving at and we would stop moving at that speed.
Although no one will explain if it is gravity or the air that is holding us to the earth.

Quote from Migz :

:| Calm down, in my theory that wouldn't happen When he jumps he is still affected by gravity, therefore the hoop at the other end WOULDNT hit him. Ty very much.

I'm sure Shott etc will punish me for this, but Gravity pulls objects down (at 9.79 - 9.81 ms^-2) - how does that affect the rotational force of the earth...?

Surely flying is no different to jumping - you both lose contact with the Earth...?

BTW - A while back a plane was on the drawing boards that would actually fly high enough into space so that the Planet rotated underneath it, meaning that (in one direction only) it could travel a long way in very little time thanks to the rotation of the Eath).

Quote from Jakg :

I'm sure Shott etc will punish me for this, but Gravity pulls objects down (at 9.79 - 9.81 ms^-2) - how does that affect the rotational force of the earth...?

Surely flying is no different to jumping - you both lose contact with the Earth...?

BTW - A while back a plane was on the drawing boards that would actually fly high enough into space so that the Planet rotated underneath it, meaning that (in one direction only) it could travel a long way in very little time thanks to the rotation of the Eath).

Flying is different to jumping, becuse with jumping your still being affected by gravity, its what pulls you back down right? Where as no gravity means you wouldn't come back down, just like in space, if they jump away their not coming back lol.

Quote from fraghetti :

If there was no gravity, you would get crushed even without leaving the ground. I guess.
If you are still in the atmosphere

I would think not, else in space they would get crushed instantly. And in the GForce One they would instantly be crushed.

Quote from Migz :

The earth is constantly moving is it not?

Relative to you, no, it is not moving (When you're standing still on it). All motion is relative: There is no such thing as absolute speed or "being still".

Quote from Migz :

Flying is different to jumping, becuse with jumping your still being affected by gravity, its what pulls you back down right? Where as no gravity means you wouldn't come back down, just like in space, if they jump away their not coming back lol.

How is jumping different to flying (in this sense, at least...)?

If you flew to space things might change, but if you jump in the air surely it's the same as being able to fly?

BTW - replace "if you could fly" with "if you could use a jetpack to fly" and see if your arguments work in real life.

When you jump, you are momentarily weightless and do not "feel" the effects of gravity. You are still accelerating but there is nothing (except drag at higher speeds) to resist your speed until you land. In your (cracked out) example, it's the same thing except your acceleration is 0.

Well thing is, if you were to fly with a jetpack you would come back down.
Where as imagine that there was no gravity at all on earth, if you were to jump then you would float away.

But ive just realised im wrong i think.

Because theres no gravity in space yet you dont see the planets flying off at thousands of miles an hour lol.
Shit i worked really hard on that theory Oweee.
Well may someone please explain why im wrong and why planets dont fly off at thousands of miles an hour in space?

iirc the Sun's gravitational field holds planets in orbit in the same way the satellites orbit the Earth.

No i dont mean that, i know that, but i mean why you dont see all of them moving off together.
So you stay absolutely still completely TOTALLYY not moving at all in relative to anything or anyone or yourself.

Basically how come you don't actually see the planets moving?