oh yh ive seen that before now i think about it but a 2.4 v8 what is the point a v8 needs to be 3.5 litre + imho. that does look mean though, still unmistakably a 7 but a bleedin powerful one

not much of a kitcar really though is it. i dont think it will be anywhere near as much of a hit as the original.

I see a roof. And doors. And a sat-nav.

Completetly missed the original spirit

Holy fugly thing...

I think it would be OK without those ugly headlights. Overall, I liked the older ones. Then again I liked the older BMW M3's too The new BMW's look weird specially with that little thingy on the roof that makes it look like a fish.

They've destroyed what made the Seven unique: its old-school classic, minimalist design, and great power-to-weight ratio.

Modernise it, yes, but please keep the body shape vintage-looking thanks.

I prefer what Caterham Cars have done: reasonably modern tech, but with the classic body shape and low kerb-weight.

That design is ghey.

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oh yh ive seen that before now i think about it but a 2.4 v8 what is the point a v8 needs to be 3.5 litre + imho.

Why?

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and a 7 dont need air con, it already has it its call nrff air con, no roof fing fast air con were the temp it changed by you right foot lol

Wrong, in a closed system, the temperature will always stay the same, no matter how fast you go. What you are talking about is the wind chill factor, where the temperature you feel on your skin is a function of the winds relative speed to you and the air temperature.

Wasn't Lotus about "adding lightness", not about adding plastic?

Imho, a modern Lotus 7 is made of carbon fibre, is mid-engined and rear wheel drive. Has small turboed petrol engine, 2 seats and is hell of a lot fun and fast on track. It doesn't need to look like it's from the 50s like the caterhams but it should look good, not something which has some badly deformed ugly heavy plastic bits bolted on the same old frame...

Imho, that car is not anything like a "true" Lotus (7), it just borrows the basic shape and then does all wrong.

The front engined, rear wheel drive layout, with the driver sitting virtually on top of the rear axle is actually pretty damn good. I'm not sure if making it mid engined would be the right thing to do. Plenty of other cars that do that. Keep the Seven ethos a little more intact.

And ban any attempt that has even slightly complex shapes on the lights. A simple convex circle is fine

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The new BMW's look weird specially with that little thingy on the roof that makes it look like a fish.

Radio ant.?

Quote from Hyperactive :

Wasn't Lotus about "adding lightness", not about adding plastic?

Imho, a modern Lotus 7 is made of carbon fibre, is mid-engined and rear wheel drive. Has small turboed petrol engine, 2 seats and is hell of a lot fun and fast on track. It doesn't need to look like it's from the 50s like the caterhams but it should look good, not something which has some badly deformed ugly heavy plastic bits bolted on the same old frame...

Imho, that car is not anything like a "true" Lotus (7), it just borrows the basic shape and then does all wrong.

What you described is the VX220 and the Elise.

Are those lights or speakers? I really can't tell

isnt the seven already midengined?

Quote from Tomba(FIN) :

Radio ant.?

Doesn't look like an antena to me... Here's a pic of what I mean.

I mean it's OK but I think it ruins the brilliant design of BMW. BMW has crazy cars but it's just that little thing that I don't like. I'm sure you can take it off though. :P

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Doesn't look like an antena to me... Here's a pic of what I mean.

I mean it's OK but I think it ruins the brilliant design of BMW. BMW has crazy cars but it's just that little thing that I don't like. I'm sure you can take it off though. :P

it is lol..

Quote from Tomba(FIN) :

it is lol..

But it does look like a cheap Halfords Add-on.

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isnt the seven already midengined?

No, it's basically an LX.

Quote from duke_toaster :

No, it's basically an LX.

:doh: The engine is mounted behind the front axle, so technically it IS mid-engined, even if it is in front of the driver...

Which in normal terms makes it a front engined car. The engine is in the front. A mid engined car has the engine between the driver and the rear wheels. And a Porsche has the engine stuck out on a 3 meter pole behind the rear axle to give the Germans something to fix for the next 40 years

Well judging by the way they've modified the 911 in all this years, you could come to the mathematical conclusion that it will become a mid-engine car sooner or later

It was inevitable really. The engine that far out the back was a classic school boy error, and the only solution without saying "Ve are wery sowwy ve made ze mistake" was to move it to a sensible place 1mm at a time over a very long time, and using odd shaped headlights to distract us from the truth.

I agree with you, but I can't think of a model that had bizzare headlights.

Mid 90s ones, with the indicators becoming part of the silly shaped headlight, yet at the same time trying to make it look like a round headlight. Fugly.

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Which in normal terms makes it a front engined car. The engine is in the front. A mid engined car has the engine between the driver and the rear wheels.

Whose "normal terms"? Mid-engined it in the middle of front and rear axle, FE is over or in front of the front axle and RE is over or behind the rear axle...

If the position of the engine in relation to the driver would be the deciding factor, "mid-engined" wouldn't exist...

it would exist.

the engine of the elise/ferrari 360 are all behind the driver. engine behind driver + between axles makes midship layout.

the LX case can be called a mid-FR. engine behind front axle but in front of the driver. but strictly speaking it's front engined.