Quote from lerts :

el nivel del agua esta mas alto cuando esta inclinado, en x, que cuando esta en vertical, en +, eso llenandolo de agua dejando solo vacio el hueco del brazo superior

y como es sabido los liquidos intentan conseguir el nivel mas bajo posible que es cuando esta vertical, en +, por eso aparece un brazo adrizante que lo lleva de la inclinacion a la verticalidad

ok.... you're definetely not from spain... or the drugs option..

I was under the impression that this was to keep the umbrella verticle when something tries to top it over. It wouldn't work.

But now that I realise that it is just to help it stand when sitting still, inside or something.. uhm.. it still won't work.

¿Qué?

Quote from MAGGOT :

I was under the impression that this was to keep the umbrella verticle when something tries to top it over. It wouldn't work.

But now that I realise that it is just to help it stand when sitting still, inside or something.. uhm.. it still won't work.

Hmm. I've been thinking about it some more, and I think it will work.

It's all about perception. You know how when you stare at the sun for long enough it starts to look sort-of purply-blue? Well I was smoking some crack the other day and I realised the sun isn't any colour at all, it's every colour, depending on how long you look at it. I think I can harness this power in a fabric dye, and apply it in several layers, having different numbers of people stare at it for different periods of time during each drying phase, until eventually what we have is an invisibility cloak. The more people stare at you, the less they see you.

I'm going to make millions.

@ Lerts, It's highly likely that i've completely misunderstood the description of this invention. But are you saying you've invented the worlds first mercury filled gimbal ?

hell im disapointed i did something important, i might be the 1st to invent this and almost evrybody laughs at me

well for those little who care:

gravity only causes motion when potential energy is spend, when the mass lowers its position


rain doesnt go up, liquids tend to take the lowest position thats posible and it no matters how you trick it, it always will do that

notice in this failed perpetuum mobile how since no potential energy is spent it cant move, gravity only moves masses by spending potential energy or losing altitude so this doesnt work because no potentila energy is spent

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v= ... DeZCM&feature=related

in my idea the leaned 3d cross is put vertical by the water lowering position, its leaned and then it spends potential energy of water and it gets vertical

come on anybody with basic phisics must know my idea is right

im not sure what a ginball is but my idea allows for any object to stay always vertical to the horizont however the postion

Quote from lerts :

im not sure what a ginball is but my idea allows for any object to stay always vertical to the horizont however the postion

Unless it gets knocked over. By someone poking it with an umbrella, perhaps.

Quote from lerts :

my idea allows for any object to stay always vertical to the horizont however the postion

Yeah, that's what a gimbal does. This seems to be the only Spanish wiki page i can find on the subject http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimbal. Maybe you can find more, (i don't speak a word of the language so i'm not much use there)

Think of one of those large ship compasses in old wooden boats. No matter how much the ship moves up and down and side to side the compass always stays upright.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Unless it gets knocked over. By someone poking it with an umbrella, perhaps.

Bahaha... you kill me, Kev.

lerts you have come up with a Rude Goldberg like solution for a basic problem, its not even a problem! You either hang the umbrella on a coat hook, prop it against a wall, or you put it in an umbrella stand.

yes but nobody admitting somethin so obvious works makes me question it myself

the level of water lowers putting vertical the umbrella, potential energy is spent putting the umbrella vertical which is the state of lower potential energy

yes i know that if you aply momentums seem that it falls down, but things must be analized with phisics laws not what it seems like

if you think the cross will fall because the momentum is bigger in the right you must believe as well my link to that perpetuum mobil works

Quote from lerts :

yes but nobody admitting somethin so obvious works makes me question it myself

Perhaps because it doesn't work and you can't explain to us why you think it does.

i said why it does work: because liquids ten to ocupy the lowest posible level that is with the cross vertical, now why should it no work?

liquid is unstable...it wont work

from verticality to45º the level rises and gravity fights that keeping verticality, from 45º to 90º the level will start lowering

so as long as you lean it 45º it will tend to verticality, farther than 45º and it will fall down

you know so many people not seeing what for me is obvious makes me wonder if im actually im smarter than i think

I has invented teh best thing eva i call it a time machine and it makes u travel time like sperm. It wurks by bending space and here is my detailed diagram of how it workz...

Here's a couple of things for you to consider, then:

When the device tips, how is the water going to leave the cross sections? If no air can enter them to replace it, the water won't escape.

If - when the device leans - the water actually does manage to exit the cross section by some miracle, and begin rising up the vertical pipe, all that will do is give further momentum to the INEVITABLE FALLING MOTION.

Here's a way you can test your idea without spending a fortune manufacturing thousands of umbrella stands that nobody will want to buy: Take a wine glass, cap it with something, put a tube through the middle of the cap and seal the hole around the tube. Now fill it with water, smash the base off the glass and try to stand it up.

I'm worried about lerts' urge to share things with people, won't be long before he is running around a local park flashing his umbrella at people.

Quote from lerts :

i said why it does work: because liquids ten to ocupy the lowest posible level

How about in space? There goes your little "theory".

Quote from wheel4hummer :

I love lerts I agree with everything he says

Traitor!

Quote from lerts :

from verticality to45º the level rises and gravity fights that keeping verticality, from 45º to 90º the level will start lowering

so as long as you lean it 45º it will tend to verticality, farther than 45º and it will fall down

you know so many people not seeing what for me is obvious makes me wonder if im actually im smarter than i think

You also need to take into account the weight of the umbrella. The size and weight of this 'invention' of yours will be too great for it to be economical. (I assume that's why you chose Mercury, initially - smaller volume needed)

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

I will produce some fake quotes from him so we have some evidence...

:inq:

im sorry guys i was not listening the system will tend to makes an x when in + posittion

the center of gravity of the liquid when + with one meter long arm has an altitude of 0.875, and when x of o.525

so obviously it will go from + to x and resist to go from x to +

but my idea still works you just have to made the umbella like this:

<---X--

force of gravity will keep the umbrella horizontal because its the lowest the center of gravity can be

i think that for a light umbrella a quarter of liter of water would be enough

Is it really that difficult to keep an umbrella upright with your hand?

Quote from wheel4hummer :

Is it really that difficult to keep an umbrella upright with your hand?

Everything seems difficult in lerts world.