You never know if they may no how to drive their powerful scoobies, they are on stands, not stands like axle stands, so you would never know unless you got them onto a track and see if they can drive them, one thing I don't like are straight line drivers, why drive fast on straights but then chicken out through corners, this annoys my step mum alot aswell, she even says you see them going fast on the straights and then they will go around a round about in 2nd gear whilst my step mum will go around the roundabout in 4th gear, this also gets to my dad, he says there really isn't much to do about straight line drivers apart from laugh and beat them lol, not physically though
Ah you see, thats why he did what he did to the best handling car in the world (in most peoples opinion), can't beat it in the corners or the straights (now).
I don't think there's nothing wrong with modified mercs, my step uncle a a 190 2.3 V6 Cosworth with a wide body kit on the but it's not to everyones taste, you mainly wont like the colour, it won't be driven for a while now though as he mate on the way up to the show on the weekend didn't see the dead dear in the road what a ford gallaxy hit 10mins before and snapped the front bumper.
As you can see on the picture it had a bit of that car polishing cloth you get to keep the bottom right of the bumper not dragging on the floor and it snapping off anymore.You may say the colour is horrible but he was thinking of getting it sprayed black, think it's a shade of lambo yellow I think he said, can't remember. Also don't say he should remove the blue stripes as it's not as easy as it looks because the person who had the car done got the stripes lacquered over.
Like I said everyone has their loves/hates and likes/dislikes.
Wait Sam. You want to modify your car, and then state you want to pay other people to modify it for you? What is the point of that? You take it to shows and say "yes, I didn't do any of it because I'm talentless and stupid, so I paid out of my nose to have a mismatching bodykit rivetted on by so called professionals who aren't good enough to get a proper job in the motor trade, and have made the car so heavy it's rubbish, so expensive to insure it's useless and so unattractive people hate me".
Why don't you decide to do EVERYTHING yourself. EVERYTHING. Retrims (stitching leather and alcantara - essentially just sewing). Bodywork - hammer, 2nd hand cheap welder, dollies and patience. Make a vow never EVER to use filler unless you admit you are a chav). Electrics - as simple as wiring a plug. Paint - possibly leave this one to someone else unless you really like a challenge and can buy a compressor and a spray gun, but it's not beyond the wit of man)...
Paying 'professionals' to do it for you is just STUPID.
Well I wont let them do everything, the retrim is a big no for me this would have to be done by a professional, I could fit the bodykit myself any parts what need blending into the bodywork will be done with filler as what can get through it, I'll use sealant instead as I saw this used on a bonnet vent on a Super 7 when I was on my work experience.
Also when modifying a car and its for shows you don't always wont them to be light, there are two types of modifying a car really isnt there:
1. Bodykits, I.C.E, Interior etc...
2nd type. Performance modifications.
As my car would proberly have a boot install, back seats out for a nice layed out sound system, I would proberly build the boot install but pay for someone to trim it so there is no sag in the leather etc...
I could wire the sound system in myself because as you say wiring is pretty easy.
There is some things what can be done by yourself then there are certain things best left to professionals, like the retrim I would have done on the seats, I would get someone to retrim those as I want leather in the car and if I done them I would proberly get a lot of sag on the edges of the seats.
Body kit would be easy to fit then would just have to get it sprayed and if my Dad still has his spray gun and compressor I could get him to do it as he used to spray lorries now and again.
As I am going to do an engine change and put the C20LET in the car hopefully I would do that myself, only have to do the wiring loom, engine mounts etc... The only thing I would like to do is the wiring loom because the amount of wires, around 500 wires to re fit.
I want to try and make my car fall into both catagories of modifying as I want the cars looks to be modified and the cars performance.
Obviously there are some people who don't like this kind of modifying but there are some who do, you have your intrests and I have mine, if I want a performance car and I could afford to have two cars I would, a performance car and a car modified for looks etc... or kill two birds with one stone, get something like an RX7 as there are a lot of tuning parts for them and also change the looks aswell.
I am not the sewing type, I wouldn't do a great job, could you retrim seats to a high standard? You would proberly say you can but I would love to see proof because I think you couldn't.
Nothing wrong with modified car,but there is a limit.dude if you would see this car... every1 who seen it was like WTF is dat?! The whole job was terrible,not to talk about they cut every wires in the car,it needs the whole body horness,wich is alone 3000$ to fix it is 45 hours,the whols job will be at least 9g$ if the modules are ok,if not... that biiiigg money.
Like i said i dont have problem with modifiing cars,as i do mine too,but there a limit before rice.
If you want a show sound system, why not just buy a decent set of separates, and but them on castors?
My retrimming skills are reasonable at best, but then I'm not taking a shit car and trying to pretend it's anything special. If I was, then I would do it myself, and learn how to do it. My plastering skills were non-existant until I taught myself when I renovated my house last year - learning IS possible.
I just don't see the point making a crap car heavier, slower and uglier for show use, and paying someone else to do it all for you. You then can't claim any credit whatsoever, and will standing at chavvy car shows telling people about other companies work. Whoop.
Chavvy car shows lol. I knew you would come back with a reply saying I can do this and that.
A list of what I would do to my car myself:
Engine Transplant
Bodykit
Boot install including speakers, subs, games console etc...
lights
Monitor in the front with freeview, sat nav, DvD etc...
Fit new seats to go in the front.
Take the back seats out and level it all off.
Help from others:
Retrim as it will be the dash, door cars, seats, boot install and maybe the roof lining, a lot of this would be leather.
Spray job as I want a very good quality finish.
and a little bit of help from my dad changing the engines over.
You obviously haven't been to a modifed Car Show if you think it's fall of chavs, there are people there who are about 50-60 looking around, basically people of all ages.
As I said the way we modify cars isn't to make them light etc... even though I am thinking of fitting carbon fible wings and bonnet but getting them sprayed so you cant tell, I know this wont lighten the car up much but I may do it don't know yet. Also as you said its fall of chavs my family ain't chavs and we go up there, and the Range Rover, Ford Harley Davidson F-150 Pick up and X5 what were there and modified I never knew people who were chavs could afford cars like them.
Also a chav is someone who wears fake clothing etc... Not people who spend 10's of thousands changing the look of a car.
The car I am going to be modifying may be crap (Corsa C SXI) but when the engine gets changed to a C20LET what is a 2.0L 200BHP Turbocharged engine and then will get tuned it will also be pretty quick, may be a bit to powerful for a FWD but I am wanting to may change it to a RWD car so then the back can be for obviously driving and the front wheels will then obviously just be left with braking and steering, so then the front wheels what have to do everything.
I have seen 1994 Corsa B's with C20LET engines in them going for around £6000 what are running about 280BHP and I have hard you can get about another 100bhp more out of them, so that means nearly 400bhp what will be madly stupid in a car of its size but, it will be for show and I will take it to a track day to see what it would handle and go like.
I don't care what others think of what I like. Like I said before it's like marmite, you either love it or hate it.
Oh and for the Sound System, it will proberly be better then what you get from a sound system what goes around on castors(Wheels) 170db from just four 15" subs it pretty good, what are in the back of a Astra Van (Winner of Streetbassers last year). No one bring up the Jackhammer because they are way to expensive for what they are, you can get two subs what will match the power of the Jackhammer for the fraction of the price, who would buy a sub costing £9,999.
There is also a old escort van going around what is battered but it has that many speakers and subs in the back it has insulation on the side panels, better then any DJ's speakers in my opinion for bass that is because the subs over power the speakers.
I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned before, but ill say it anyway.
Dont you think you should earn your own money before thinking of spending it. And the amount of money (and others work) you intend to spend is just insane, what are we looking at here? 10000£? or more close to 20000£? That money will make you survive 5years at university without having to work at night
Furthermore, have you you informed yourself about the c20let engine and how much you can get out of it? Sure its possible to get 400hp out of it, but this means the car will spend more time sitting in the garage for engine revisions than driving on public roads (or standing at "modified car shows" ...having to push the car of a trailer will look beautiful btw). Cars without their revisions will usually end up on ebay or some online car market, where they usually stay for several years...for a really good reason.
Changing a Corsa to RWD? Good luck with your insurance and the vehicle registration, and dont be surprised if they ask for the engineer calculations on the stability of the chassis. I suppose rwd will not be possible without cutting out huge parts for the drivetrain.
Btw: Is money growing on trees nowadays? If so, i really want one of those trees!!!!
Thats what I would like to do to the engine, proberly would never reach that BHP but wouldn't mind getting towards say 280BHP. RWD on a Corsa is possible, I have seen it done.
You don't do all the modifications at once you do them over time, level it out so it don't hurt your insurance.
For the first couple of years it will be about styling and audio then it will move to the engine when I am say about 21.
I never said money grows on trees, I was just saying what I am hoping to do to the car.
It will never be put on a trailer, it will be well maintained.
Also what do you mean by 'Car Revisions'
We will see what happens when I get my car wont we.
1. The majority of people that go to them shows are full blown chav's, i went to 10 of the best and that had enough, thanks.
2. Do you know how much you'll be spending on the engine to get a reliable 400bhp? Alot.
3. As speedway says, don't count your chickens before they've hatched, its great you have a plan and everything but wake up! Most of the things won't turn out anything like you thought.
4. Trackday? I remember seeing a video on youtube of a trackday up north, barry boys trackday? I thought your car was going to be for show? You can't show it and take it on trackdays, i can see you now flying through the gravel with your sick as hell £8000 paint job, battered to death with stone chips
who said it is going to have a £8k paintjob, I know how expensive car modifying is, my step mums family is really into modifying cars, so I know what is costs etc...
As I already said I would like to get 400BHP out of the engine but it will cost to much, maybe 250-280BHP.
My car will not be a barry boy car, barry boys are craply done cars, Vince who is a member of street stylers southwests Civic got put onto Barry Boys and the OP slated the car to hell but when people started replying to the thread they started to say it was nice, and it is.
If you look on barry boys and see what kind of cars are on there, they have been made to look horid, then open a page of max power, redline or Fast Car and look at the difference.
You said you wanted a quality paint job. A quality paint job will start at around £8k. A bodykit is another few thousand pounds. Then to get your stupid sound system that is more about volume than subtle sound quality (a mark of a chav) will be another few thousand pounds. The engine conversion will be a couple of grand once assuming you do everything yourself. A rear wheel drive conversion might be somewhere between £5 and £15k. A full leather retrim is going to be about £6000.
Of course, you might bodge it like all the other chavs in rice-mobiles, and get the whole lot done for a tenner.
I suspect the latter. You obviously have much lower standards than I. Not that I'd be seen dead in a riced up shopping trolley.
Edit: Not only does that bodykit not suit the shape of the rest of the car, but being an off-the-shelf item doesn't that miss the point of 'unique styling'?
I will buy a silver Corsa and then all I will need doing is get the body kit sprayed, if the colour shade doesn't match obviously they put it right free of charge and I know for a fact they do as when my step uncle got a new front bumper for his van and the boot smoothed the colour shade was totally wrong and got put right for free.
This may be an off the shelf item but there are not a lot of cars with the kit on as it costs a grand. I am wanting to get two custom exhausts made up to be the same shape as the rear vents so they can come out of them. The bodykit may get modified it slight ways.
Also why do you need sound quality for dance music because a sound system with sub and you playing Dance music you can only really here the bass, there will be speakers aswell as subs so you can here the backing track to it etc...
RWD conversion was an idea, lower standards ok mate, my step grandad has modified cars but he has one car what makes up for them both and that is his ferrari, this is an example of some people have modified cars but they also have nice cars aswell.
Tristian no offence but I am shore you think the sun shines out your ass, just my opinion.
This will be done to a high standard and I also like the way no one can seem to tell me what they think a chav is.
Boy Racers give us people who modify cars a bad name and then it goes on from there, people make their opinions of modified cars what are built for show and become the owners pride and joy without knowing what actually goes into them.
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You guys know how i said i wanted a modified 200sx what i wanted to do was good wasn't it. /me votes to tell sam this is lfs not nfs. Sam you are on the wrong forum for riced up cars.:lfs:
Oh and the sun does shine out of tristian's ass. Someone checked lol.
And so what, this is in the off topic section. What does it matter if it's in a forum about chips, don't know why I thought that, first thing what came to mind. Just saying what I want to do to the car.
This is the same story of Racing and Drifting, the debate will never end, the same goes for modifying cars to go faster and modifying cars for show, it will never end. I would modify cars to make them go faster and be lighter but I prefer making them look different.
Sam the point is you aren't going to win. 99% of people on this forum don't like riced up cars. And if you are going to modify a car just make something like a 200sx into a fast car with no gay speakers.
