I've just been catching up on GP2 races on my PVR. In GP2 they have a mandatory pitstop, no refueling, just a tyre change. I was wondering what would be the chance of doing a mandatory pitstop when the SS servers are on endurance days?

The racing on CTRA servers is of such a high quality that I think it would be a really nice challenge to time your tyre wear (esp on SO tracks) so that you can get a position on track with a cleverly timed pitstop...

Admins, what do you think? Worth a trial?

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I've just been catching up on GP2 races on my PVR. In GP2 they have a mandatory pitstop, no refueling, just a tyre change. I was wondering what would be the chance of doing a mandatory pitstop when the SS servers are on endurance days?

The racing on CTRA servers is of such a high quality that I think it would be a really nice challenge to time your tyre wear (esp on SO tracks) so that you can get a position on track with a cleverly timed pitstop...

Admins, what do you think? Worth a trial?

From my point of view - it would be a idea to consider. As it would be a good 'learning' curve for new racers - however If you need to change your tyres in a CTRA endurance event then I think that you maybe need to improve your setup or driving to make the tyres last

so +0.5 from me

No-one races on the SS servers above 1 anyway, forcing pitstops will dissuade them even more.
SS1 is meant for beginners...some people will have no idea about forced pitting.

Also, there's no pits on the sprint tracks and I wouldn't like to see them removed from the rotation for this reason.

When I was in CTRA I always said forced pitstops would be over my dead body. Here's why:

The destroy the on track action.

I dont know what reasons you guys race for, but I love going wheel to wheel with other cars, I dont want to hotlap.

The moment you introduce pitstops you introduce a system for not fighting other cars, because i'm a racer i'll use the pitstop to get myself involved in as few battles on track as possible because this is the fastest way.

It's not the most fun way though.

If the system was changed so that there was a window of only 2 or 3 laps to do the stop then that would help, but all the same, you're still introducing a system designed to allow people not to fight each other on track - I dont see the point.

If you want to hotlap there's a hotlapping option in LFS.

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When I was in CTRA I always said forced pitstops would be over my dead body.

Never short of a strong opinion

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Here's why:

The destroy the on track action.

I dont know what reasons you guys race for, but I love going wheel to wheel with other cars, I dont want to hotlap.

I agree...

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The moment you introduce pitstops you introduce a system for not fighting other cars, because i'm a racer i'll use the pitstop to get myself involved in as few battles on track as possible because this is the fastest way.

To be honest i've not raced with pitstops for a loooong time. I my naive mind I thought that due to the high quality of close racing in CTRA that the action would still be close, and that pit stops might add a new element to it. I could be totally wrong however.

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It's not the most fun way though.

If the system was changed so that there was a window of only 2 or 3 laps to do the stop then that would help, but all the same, you're still introducing a system designed to allow people not to fight each other on track - I dont see the point.

The point being that in the past few weeks i've had many SS1 races with nearly 80% of the field completing the race in the first half of the track. I wondered what it would be like to be in first place and have the pressure of a pit stop looming...

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If you want to hotlap there's a hotlapping option in LFS.

Nope, not interested in hot lapping. I had just been watching GP2 and thought that the whole pitstop strategy was fun and in a 10-15 lap race there could be room for a mandatory stop. Esp in the SS1 races i've had recently the lead cars run so close together that there would be real pressure to get in and out of the pits cleanly.

I also thought that it would promote a few things.

• Sometimes when trying to catch a car, or when under pressure from another racer, you push your tyre temps high. A pitstop would be a great way to keep you competitive.
  
• Pit stop times depend on how much damage the car has taken. A mandatory stop could give you a chance to repair those T1/T2 incidents and again remain competitive.
  

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When I was in CTRA I always said forced pitstops would be over my dead body. Here's why:

The destroy the on track action.

I dont know what reasons you guys race for, but I love going wheel to wheel with other cars, I dont want to hotlap.

The moment you introduce pitstops you introduce a system for not fighting other cars, because i'm a racer i'll use the pitstop to get myself involved in as few battles on track as possible because this is the fastest way.

It's not the most fun way though.

Funny isn't it that you did have some races in your STCC league with them then isn't it........

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Funny isn't it that you did have some races in your STCC league with them then isn't it........

hey if you wonna put compulsory pitstops into CTRA then go for it, i'm not going to stop you, i'm just expressing why it wasnt done in my time at the institution and putting a reasoned argument against it.

Yes it featured in 1 round of the STCC in season 1 as something different for that 1 race. It might also feature in every round of season 2 but not for the purpose of the pitstop itself but as a necessity to achieve a further aim that is unrelated, and should a pitstop become necessary it would have very tight controls to make sure that using the pits does not diminish ontrack battles but becomes an event in itself.

EDIT: It should also be noted that STCC exists for the viewer, CTRA exists for the driver - some things have more merit for one than the other.

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hey if you wonna put compulsory pitstops into CTRA then go for it, i'm not going to stop you, i'm just expressing why it wasnt done in my time at the institution and putting a reasoned argument against it.

'lol' at the institution comment

No one says that CTRA are or are not considering this atm or at all even...


This thread was made by one guy who 'asked the question' about possible compulsory pitstops in SS on Endurance days

But bearing in mind that the OP has already changed his mind by contradicting everything he wanted after you (Becky) made your original post I don't think the suggestion is gonna be going any further anyhow..




Regarding your plans for your STCC Season 2 - good luck with that and all you are 'planning' to do with it both with existing apps and future ones you have yet to make.

When you have all the full details about it then I'm sure you will post about it in the relevant STCC sub-section and everyone can go and have a read of them there

To be frank, there is no point talking about them here in the CTRA sub-forum...like you say there is no link or involvement between the 2 parties anymore and the continued and persistant inclusion of STCC information/material here in the CTRA sub-forum only ever makes the seperation harder to do and acheive........ something I'm sure you are trying to do yourself, after all STCC is your baby, lock stock and barrel.

Best Regards,


Dru.

*blinks* You brought it up

Eeek, do I get there feeling there is some tension between you guys?

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But bearing in mind that the OP has already changed his mind by contradicting everything he wanted after you (Becky) made your original post I don't think the suggestion is gonna be going any further anyhow..

I don't understand, I still like the idea of a pit stop and only agreed with Becky that the on track close action is everyones goal. I think pit stops would continue that close action with even more pressure. Imagine if the top 3 drivers, all within a few car lengths of each other, all dived into the pits.

Any way, I think this idea is already a dead duck from the comments so far

I'm not sure, I wasn't aware of any. I don't know if he was 'planning' his responce that way or it just came over like it

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I'm not sure, I wasn't aware of any. I don't know if he was 'planning' his responce that way or it just came over like it

just came across like that nothing more :grouphug: