Wondering if there is any way i can get a more realistic feeling force feedback. I do a lot of drifting in this game (and teaching my little brother), and i want to be able to get rid of that bounciness in the FFB when ur countersteering. Ive seen videos of people with a better looking force feedback but i cant figure out how they did it

Spend 5k on a better wheel.


Or go spend 5k on a RWD bucket of crap and hit the paddocks.

Which wheel are you currently using? I've only used a DFP so I can't really compare to other wheels but my FFB settings feel pretty good for me.

DFP is horrible especially for drifting for one reason. The FFB is SLOW. And if you try to counter steer too fast itll resist. I have a DFP and can not drift with it and it does feel unrealistic. My G25 on the other hand is perfect. Smooth, calm, silent, yet still strong when it needs to be.

If your using a G25 I've been told by real life drifters that went on LFS that the G25 is really really good for the FFB in LFS.

Im using a Thrustmaster Nascar FFB which is like 5 years old haha.

Im trying to find the video where it shows the really good looking ffb response but im struggling to find it.

As for spending 5k on a real rwd car, ive already done that haha. I have a 240sx i have quite a bit of money invested in, but i dont want to go teaching my 14 year old little brother how to drift in that when he only has about 30 minutes of behind the wheel time with a real car lol. I wouldnt be happy if he smashed it

Im just looking for a mod or something that changes how the ffb feels, like they have for rfactor (which i never tried because i dont own rfactor,but heard its a good mod)

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DFP is horrible especially for drifting for one reason. The FFB is SLOW. And if you try to counter steer too fast itll resist. I have a DFP and can not drift with it and it does feel unrealistic. My G25 on the other hand is perfect. Smooth, calm, silent, yet still strong when it needs to be.

If your using a G25 I've been told by real life drifters that went on LFS that the G25 is really really good for the FFB in LFS.

You're the first person I see saying that G25 is silent... I'm really happy with it, but silence it's not one of its virtues

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You're the first person I see saying that G25 is silent... I'm really happy with it, but silence it's not one of its virtues

Compared to DFP it is like a whisper

Thank god! I thought i was the only one keeping people awake during the night with my G25 lol!

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Im using a Thrustmaster Nascar FFB which is like 5 years old haha.

Im trying to find the video where it shows the really good looking ffb response but im struggling to find it.

As for spending 5k on a real rwd car, ive already done that haha. I have a 240sx i have quite a bit of money invested in, but i dont want to go teaching my 14 year old little brother how to drift in that when he only has about 30 minutes of behind the wheel time with a real car lol. I wouldnt be happy if he smashed it

Im just looking for a mod or something that changes how the ffb feels, like they have for rfactor (which i never tried because i dont own rfactor,but heard its a good mod)

Can you teach me to drift in your car then? Really G25 is the way to go.

i've had no problems with my DFP. Just have a look in your controllers software (i'm assuming it had some options but i wouldn't know never heard of your wheel) Maybe the spring centre is wound up so it's fighting you constantly, or something like that, anyway scout around the forums to see what settings other people generally use, and see how yours compare

I'm afraid the real problem in your case is the low lock the wheel has. FFB can't operate fast and accurate with low lock steering lock of the wheel and inaccuracy of steering sensors (Pots used afaik). For example it sends the wheel to the left, but a little to much, so it gives the comand for opposite motion, yet again too much, and so the wobble is started, same happend in the straight line. G25 has optical sensor and higher lock allows for more accurate FFB work, so this problem is way less noticable with it.

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If your using a G25 I've been told by real life drifters that went on LFS that the G25 is really really good for the FFB in LFS.

Better maybe, but not really good... The times my car gets out of shape, I too have to fight the FFB or I'll be facing oncoming traffic/in the next tankslapper in the opposite direction one second later...

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You're the first person I see saying that G25 is silent... I'm really happy with it, but silence it's not one of its virtues

Compared to the Momo and DFP I have it's nothing. Can bearly hear it. Heck I drive with it in OneGP in the morning and it doesn't even wake up my brother! If I'd race with the DFP in the morning the whole neighbourhood would get up and probably call the police!

I dont think u guys know what im really talking about. Yes, its bouncy, but thats not the issue.

Right now, the FFB is mimicking what the weight transfer is doing, not what power steering would do.

This is a short video of my wheel i took this morning, crappy quality because it was taken from a phone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCArwvUZ1go

See how the wheel stops counter steering it's self at a certain point? In a real car, if im drifting around a right hand corner and counter steering to the left, the wheel will spin its self really fast to the left, all the way till it hits full lock. It doesnt stop its self at any certain point for u.

I know this can be done in the game because i've seen videos of people drifting where it doesnt hit the bouncy point. When it's hitting the stopping point, u cant do the grab and let go method of counter steering like u do in a real car, which is what i want to teach my brother how to do.

In this video, he doesnt hit that stopping point in the counter steer and is able to do the grab and let go method of counter steering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpC2HB3HK_U

The only reason people download the FFB mod for rFactor is because the FFB is crap to start with (so I've heard).

I'd put it down to wheel make quality really - and of course the fact that there just isn't enough wheel rotation in yours. As a sidenote, the wheel you are comparing yours to costs over $1000 IIRC.

The RealFeel plugin for rFactor won't work with all mods. It only really works with mods that have proper suspension geometry and such - as a result the FFB effects it produces resemble LFS's; with some mods more so than with others.

alright. thanks

Yours is acting very similar to the other video you posted, IMO. The difference is, you have 270 (less?) degrees of rotation and the other video is 900 degrees of rotation.