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anyone up for some halo 3?
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anyone up for some halo 3?
i say umm about 3 hours add me on msn and add my gamer tag

muttski11lz
FPS + gamepad = fail
I would be if I had a 360, but oh well.
what about gta 3 anyone? free mode?
Quote from mutt107 :why is it fail? cause your no good at it?

Which makes more sense for accurate aiming? A little nub you nudge around with your thumb with a mere centimeter of travel, or a mouse you sweep around with a range of travel as big or small as you like?
Quote from Forbin :Which makes more sense for accurate aiming? A little nub you nudge around with your thumb with a mere centimeter of travel, or a mouse you sweep around with a range of travel as big or small as you like?

Agreed.

And, don't shoot me here, but I found Halo 3 too much of the same old same old, so I took it back after 2 days..
Likewise, there's the difference in basic operation. The gamepad joystick controls the rate at which your point of aim shifts, while a mouse controls the actual position, with the rate being controled by how quickly you sweep the mouse.
I've never really figured out why Microsoft (being a computer company) ported it over to PC, like they did with Halo 1 and Halo 2 (Although last time I checked you HAD to have Vista for it to work...:really.

FPS games were born (as we know them today, if I remember correctly) on the PC, although I'm sure some crappy Dukem Nukem or Doom -1 on a PSX, SNES or Sega was first. But I'm thinking onwards from CS 1.6 kind of thing, an actual 3D FPS with Online.
FPS games on consoles were pretty much unheard of until Goldeneye (1997) on N64. Wolfenstein 3D (1992), is widely regarded as the first modern FPS (or first true FPS period), follwed by Doom (1993) and Quake (1996).
Regardless, Halo and its sequels are tons of fun for lots of people, as were GoldenEye and Perfect Dark.

So what if an analog stick is less precise? That just makes it more challenging.
Quote from DeadWolfBones :Regardless, Halo and its sequels are tons of fun for lots of people, as were GoldenEye and Perfect Dark.

So what if an analog stick is less precise? That just makes it more challenging.

right
Quote from DeadWolfBones :Regardless, Halo and its sequels are tons of fun for lots of people, as were GoldenEye and Perfect Dark.

So what if an analog stick is less precise? That just makes it more challenging.

+1

Besides I think gamepad is harder than mouse.
Quote from chanoman315 :+1

Besides I think gamepad is harder than mouse.

yea i could not Imagine playing halo 3 with a mouse.
Unnatural = harder = better?

Have you ever even played a PC FPS with keyboard and mouse? If not I can understand your opinion since you simply don't know any better. If so, well...
Quote from Forbin :Unnatural = harder = better?

Have you ever even played a PC FPS with keyboard and mouse? If not I can understand your opinion since you simply don't know any better. If so, well...

Are you talking to me? if then yes, ive played FPS games in pc, and i can tell i like more a gamepad.
/thread
More like /your opinion.

More people play FPS on thier PC's than people play on thier consoles.
Quote from chanoman315 :Are you talking to me? if then yes, ive played FPS games in pc, and i can tell i like more a gamepad.
/thread

Okay, so you prefer a gamepad, fair enough. Care for a little challenge?

Pick a PC FPS. We'll meet up online, you on a gamepad, me on KB+mouse, best controller wins.

I have:
-R6 Vegas
-HL (and mods, including CS)
-HL2 (and mods, including CS:S)
-BF2 (plus all the expansions)
-Crysis

AFAIK, all of those games support a gamepad.
Quote from Forbin :Unnatural = harder = better?

Have you ever even played a PC FPS with keyboard and mouse? If not I can understand your opinion since you simply don't know any better. If so, well...

What makes mouse control "natural" for shooting people, anyway?

That's like saying cars should be driven with joysticks.

They're two methods for accomplishing the same thing. Kb & mouse is easier and more precise, and the games that use it tend to be a lot quicker-paced or depend more on precision. Analog stick is harder and games that use it (Halo, etc) are slower and less precise.

No argument here.
Accuracy and precision are the name of the game in an FPS. It doesn't matter if it's fast or slow-paced, if you can't get shots on target in a timely manner, you're dead.

A mouse controls view position by where you move it, and slew speed by how fast you move it. A gamepad joystick controls slew speed by where you move it, and slew acceleration by how fast you move it.

The mouse is more natural because you are physically pointing with it. The joystick effectively requires integration on the fly to get the view pointed where you want it.

And FTR, wheels and joysticks are very similar in operation, a wheel and pedals set merely has its axes split between its constituent parts.
Quote from Forbin :Okay, so you prefer a gamepad, fair enough. Care for a little challenge?

Pick a PC FPS. We'll meet up online, you on a gamepad, me on KB+mouse, best controller wins.

I have:
-R6 Vegas
-HL (and mods, including CS)
-HL2 (and mods, including CS:S)
-BF2 (plus all the expansions)
-Crysis

AFAIK, all of those games support a gamepad.

I dont have them, besides my pc wont run them.
I think Gamepad is harder -> challening -> i like it more.

Anyway Mutt was talking of console games, and that's what im talking about.
Quote from chanoman315 :I dont have them, besides my pc wont run them.
I think Gamepad is harder -> challening -> i like it more.

Anyway Mutt was talking of console games, and that's what im talking about.

AND if anyone has GTA IV or halo 3 add my gamer tag so we can play sometime

muttski11lz
Just play Arma. The controls feel the same if you move your poor soldier with a joystick, keyboard and mouse, gamepad, pedals, through your buddy via telephone yelling instructions or hitting the PC case with a log.

I love Arma Evolution Hohei MP to death.
I have Halo 3, got it as a bundle-package with my Xbox360. I wouldn't poke it with a stick though, it's just overrated mediocre drizzle in my eyes.

It's not the control scheme either, a joypad is inferior obviously (stop kidding yourself that you like it because it's harder people - the games are already stupidified to make them less hard, eg the horribly intrusive auto-aim in all Halo games, and enemies that just durrrrr around before finally taking a shot)
It's just that the game itself is really quite bad on the actual FPS part - although it has excellent multiplayer support and was great fun to play around the first Halo, when vehicles in coop were still new and fresh.

The only reason to play an FPS with a joypad is for the relaxation and hanging-back factor, which is why I actually played Bioshock on my PC with an Xbox pad. Sitting back with a beer in a comfy chair! Bioshock is not a thoroughbred FPS though, and its control scheme is brilliant, so yeah.
Quote from spankmeyer :Just play Arma. The controls feel the same if you move your poor soldier with a joystick, keyboard and mouse, gamepad, pedals, through your buddy via telephone yelling instructions or hitting the PC case with a log.

I love Arma Evolution Hohei MP to death.

Was going to get it, not sure what it was like though. Review plox xD

anyone up for some halo 3?
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