is it a one off porsche or a heavily modded cayman s?
It's a modified 911 GT3, On the Autocar video on Youtube the guy who is making them said that 90% of the car has been changed.
I wondering if you put the engine from the Veyron into the 9ff GT9, how fast would it be? Because if the Veyron is twice the weight of the 9ff, the veyrons engine must be bloody powerful, if Bugatti first made the veyron with the weight/design of the 9ff, wouldn't the Veyron be a lot faster, but as the Veyron is suppose to be a luxuries supercar they wouldn't be able to design it like the 9ff as it wouldn't be as 'luxuries'. The Veyron from the outside isn't luxuries but saying that either is the Rolls-Royce Phantom from the outside, see one regular in Modbury(out in the sticks). I would buy the 9FF for the speed and a Phantom for the luxury if I had the money and you would of still saved yourself money.
From the front it looks really good, even the back part. But from the back it looks fugly :S.
IMO thats ugly and a GT3 is much much much better looking
They are being sold to a totally different customer, the 9ff is much lighter and RWD and will be much harder to drive fast and will require a sensible and experienced driver to show it respect in order to safely get it round a track. All things that Veyron owners typically are not.
It is a GT3 body lengthend by 300mm with the engine mid mounted, presumably the rollcage is stressed.
It would almost certainly be slower in every aspect except possibly top speed and much worse round a track with the Veyron's larger, heavier and taller engine, which would mess up weight distribution (especially CofG), probably have an adverse aerodynamic effect (due to packing a bigger engine and cooling system for it) and make the car heavier when it already has more power that it will ever need in any situation other than a straight line at high speed.
I see.
Didn't read nearly all of this thread, but all I'll say is:
1. I don't consider this car better than the Veyron. This is a stripped out car with no airbags, no side-impact bars, no crumple zones, ONE side-view mirror, etc...
...this is a full-on high-speed one-trick pony compared to the Veyron, which is almost as good of a daily driver as it is a 253 mph hypercar.
2. sam93, I agree COMPLETELY with you that this is an ugly car... but how in the hell can you actually say that it's uglier than the Veyron. In fact, how can you possibly even say that the Veyron is ugly at ALL!?
3. sam93, you say the Veyron is easy to drive only because of the computer equipment. I have read multiple reviews (and seen the Fifth Gear review) stating that even with the traction control OFF, the car is very manageable because it has a wonderfully balanced chassis. So the computers may help, but a lot of it is down to the fact that it's a GREAT car.
4. sam93, you say you'd have the Porsche because it's "faster," but would you really prefer a bare-bones car over a full luxury car just for the 1mph difference? The Veyron is TWICE AS FAST as the Porsche to 60 mph... you'd have to get to 150 or higher before the Porsche would pull ahead. I'm willing to bet that the Porsche would handle better on the track, but considering the fact that the Veyron can put so much more power down at lower speeds, I'm sure it'd put up a good fight.
5. Actually I'm done now.
1. I don't consider this car better than the Veyron. This is a stripped out car with no airbags, no side-impact bars, no crumple zones, ONE side-view mirror, etc...
...this is a full-on high-speed one-trick pony compared to the Veyron, which is almost as good of a daily driver as it is a 253 mph hypercar.
2. sam93, I agree COMPLETELY with you that this is an ugly car... but how in the hell can you actually say that it's uglier than the Veyron. In fact, how can you possibly even say that the Veyron is ugly at ALL!?
3. sam93, you say the Veyron is easy to drive only because of the computer equipment. I have read multiple reviews (and seen the Fifth Gear review) stating that even with the traction control OFF, the car is very manageable because it has a wonderfully balanced chassis. So the computers may help, but a lot of it is down to the fact that it's a GREAT car.
4. sam93, you say you'd have the Porsche because it's "faster," but would you really prefer a bare-bones car over a full luxury car just for the 1mph difference? The Veyron is TWICE AS FAST as the Porsche to 60 mph... you'd have to get to 150 or higher before the Porsche would pull ahead. I'm willing to bet that the Porsche would handle better on the track, but considering the fact that the Veyron can put so much more power down at lower speeds, I'm sure it'd put up a good fight.
5. Actually I'm done now.
because it is?
if anything the reason why its controllable is because it weights about as much as an oil tanker raising the moment of inertia to the point where everything happens in slow motion
I love the Stock GT3 (RS) more that this modified one that looks like a stretched Cayman.
It looks awesome. Even in those colours.
It looks awesome. Even in those colours.
I didn't say the 9ff is uglier then the veyron, the 9ff is a lot better looking.
Also I do think the Veyron is a ugly car.
The video I saw where Autocar test the 9ff GT9 it says that it is faster then the Veyron over 100mph or when it gets past 140, cant remember perfectly which one. If I wanted a car for luxury I would buy a Rolls Royce Phantom, it may be a big lump but I bet it's one of the most luxurous/comfortable car around. If I wanted a fast car I would most likely buy something like a Ferrari or Lambo.
I wouldn't mind the Vauxhall Victor someone modified though what does 0-60 in 1second, 2200bhp, spent £100k on the car I think I read somewhere. It is built for Drag Racing so probably not very good at going around corners, it is road legal though.
Wouldn't have the 9ff or the Veyron but if I had to choice between the two I would get the 9ff and get a Phantom, one car for speed and one for luxury, these two cars together wouldn't come close to the price of the Veyron.
The 9ff or the Veyron would also cost you a arm and a leg on fuel, would rather have a lambo, SLR or Carrera GT.
Cant people design cars nowadays? Always some kind of ugly thing, that looks a bit like a car comes out.
Oh whoopse, yeah I meant it the other way round. Well personally I think the Veyron looks fantastic.
Anyway, I guess it obviously comes down to personal taste. For example, I would never want a Phantom. That is TOO luxurious. I would be driving anyway, and there's no reason to get a Phantom if you're not going to sit in the back. The Porsche would be a track car ONLY. Thing is though, I would want to get a car that I could drive on the track AND road AND be comfortable in AND still be able to have some fun on the way to work if I wanted... and so for me, the Bugatti fits the bill perfectly.
And forget fuel costs - if you can afford a Bugatti, you can afford the fuel, even if it DOES end up at $25/gallon someday, lol.
Why do you have to just sit in the back of the Phantom lol, try to see where I am coming from, would be comfortable for other things
I wouldn't pay nearly £1mill for a car no way, I bet someone will get a normal road car make it luxurous and as or faster then the Veyron for a fraction of the money.Ahahaha, gotcha!
I honestly don't see that happening anytime soon. As I'm sure you know, it ACTUALLY cost Bugatti something like 5 times what they sold them for to develop the Veyron. Nothing will ever match that car in the near future for anything much less what it cost now... and probably more.
Because "ugly" is an understatement?
Let me put it differently: It's a disgrace to the Bugatti name. The reason to paint it blue is not so much a reference to French racing history, as its likeness to 4-wheeled Viagra. I wouldn't be seen dead in it, even though it looks like a coffin.
Ah, then it's an even bigger waste of money than I thought.
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Yeah, it was never meant to be a profitable vehicle. It was just an engineering showpiece to "reintroduce the brand" and get the Bugatti name out into the world again before they start making cars.
And yeah - probably wouldn't get one in blue... there are many better color choices:
EDIT: Jesus I just realized how ridiculously huge the brakes are...!
thats a ridiculously huge cockcrouch
They may be able to make a car more luxurious, faster and better looking for less then the 5million the Veyron costs to get made, the 9ff is £350,000 and is just slightly faster then the Veyron, so if someone can produce a engine that has the power of 1000bhp, nice looks and very luxurious for less then £600k they would be on a winning streak, wouldn't do Bugatti any good though.
Yeah, but it's not that easy. You can't just "make" an engine that puts out 1000 hp. It has to do that without a setup that means it only runs a few thousand miles between overhauls. People take Supras up to 1500 hp with comparatively little cost, but they are NOT anywhere near reliable. The Veyron is supposed to be as reliable as any other car. Then you've got to design a gearbox that will be JUST as reliable while withstanding that power... and a 4wd system that can also withstand the power. And brakes that can be used over and over without needing to be replaced often. These are things that the Porsche cannot do - and are a big part of the Veyron's cost.
Then again, Bugatti also had to actually DEVELOP that stuff. Now that it exists, another company might be able to borrow that tech - which would save a lot of development costs. Either way though, it will still probably cost just as much considering that they'd have to produce it for 1/5 the cost just to BREAK EVEN if they sold it for the SAME as the Veyron.
True, you never know what could happen though, it may be done it may not, most likely not. But if you wanted a luxurious car imo I would buy something luxurious like a Phantom like I said before and I would buy another car for speed. The only problem with a car like the Veyron you couldn't drive it everyday because you would spend most of your time in the petrol station and it would be to easy to speed in the car.
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