Hello

Around 8 months ago when i began playing LFS i was a really big noob to the game.I found it funny to crash someone in the CTRA Server, this resulted in me being banned. I did not know about the seriousness of racing and the consequences it followed. However over my time, i have now entered in a number of leagues and am a very experienced driver. Would it be possible to get a second chance at this wonderful server?

Thanks
James Bailey

LFS USERNAME - blueyy

i think you have to pm d00fey or something like this name on this forum and ask to unban you.

already have, no reply.
so keen to race.

I see you have an appeal open. This is the correct way to proceed.

The purpose of the licence system was always to educate first and action second. Some cases of wrecking are so blatant that no attempt to educate is made, as appears to be the case on your licence record, but if the lesson truly is learned you'll probably be let back in.

There are plenty of stories of drivers on the CTRA who have been penalised and later became good racers who take it more seriously than they used too. The CTRA's mission has always been to treat sim racing as a sport, i'm glad to see your on board with that vision now.

I have removed your ban in hopes that you have indeed turned the corner and realized that your actions are not to be part of our servers. I hope you don't prove this to be a mistake, enjoy and drive responsibly =)

Because of your ban however you will not be allowed to mid race join for 100 races.

Thank-you !

it is much appreciated.

I wrote this, cause I think, CTRA admins not so fair admins.

I don't get any penalties, just my friends.

One of my friends get a penalty for a realy sily thing. He made a wrong way drive, but dont crash any driver. He got 900 point penalty... he earned till this only 1900... he deleted his details, and gone away from ctra...

Another friend got 500 points penalty...
and why?
Cause he "wrecked" a wrecker(midrace joiner n00b), when he leads the race...

Man! Think! CTRA can be crashers heaven?

And he deleted his details, and say bye to ctra....

Thank You!

I was till this point a ctra fun... but I just say, that can be a stupid heaven.....

Clean racers, normal drivers gets penalties... 2-3 week report reviews... crasher heaven...

bye...

Why drive the wrong way? Penalty deserved imo. This is a race track not a play park.

Your second example sounds very unlikely, got a replay?

Quote from SabersKunk :

Why drive the wrong way? Penalty deserved imo. This is a race track not a play park.

Your second example sounds very unlikely, got a replay?

He got replay, and he got an appeal, but get the same answer (#19964)
His word say something...

and I think, this is the end. I like races on ctra, but bad things makes it less fun. I lost 2 friends, 2 clean driver.

The wrong way was just a wrong minute from my friend. He did it, when leader finished, but other not. He did not crashes anyone.
He fed up with wreckers, pushers etc.

They wont be back again...

looking at the details of your friends actions I dont think they will be missed. The CTRA was designed to promote racing ethics in the virtual world, and to weed out the 'gamer' attitudes which plagued online pickup racing.

When people refuse to be educated for doing something they thought was ok but wasn't in accordance with racing rules, it's good that they no longer access the system.

Win-win I think .

Quote from Becky Rose :

looking at the details of your friends actions I dont think they will be missed. The CTRA was designed to promote racing ethics in the virtual world, and to weed out the 'gamer' attitudes which plagued online pickup racing.

When people refuse to be educated for doing something they thought was ok but wasn't in accordance with racing rules, it's good that they no longer access the system.

Win-win I think .

Sorry for that question, but can U understand my post?

My friend were the race leader... He try always to drive clean. Comes a wrecker to the server, he were behind my friend on the track. Tried many times wreck my friend. He fed up with that...
Now?

Quote from mackosajt :

He got replay, and he got an appeal, but get the same answer (#19964)
His word say something...

and I think, this is the end. I like races on ctra, but bad things makes it less fun. I lost 2 friends, 2 clean driver.

The wrong way was just a wrong minute from my friend. He did it, when leader finished, but other not. He did not crashes anyone.
He fed up with wreckers, pushers etc.

They wont be back again...

CTRA Admins a 100% right again,

i found this exacly the same as,

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killing the man that killed your friend. both arent allowed. if you kill the man that killed your friend , you are getting locked by the police.

in other words, your friend broke the rule by crashing/ wrecking some one, that this person is a wrecker has nothing to do with that.

if you look it from this point of view, the panalty that your friend got is very light , the ctra admins could call it wrecking and that is a mid tern ban

Quote from mackosajt :

Tried many times wreck my friend. He fed up with that...
Now?

Your friend should have reported the wrecker, instead of just wrecking him in return

Watch the replay in the report... before post.

The penalty I think is too big.
And I ask, who reported him?

I reported the wrecker, cause my friend never use the reporting sistem...

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Sorry for that question, but can U understand my post?

Yes I did.

I've not watched the replay, but i've reviewed the written evidence... The driver confessed to loosing his temper with another racer and wrecking him. If the server was left to vigilante's to keep it clean it would descend into the very kind of racing you go to CTRA to avoid. Either enter in the spirit of the competition (and report those who dont), or go to another system or operator who have a similar vision to yourself. There are plenty out there, including within LFS.

The CTRA are protecting themselves when they penalise a driver, showing that they can and will take action against those who dont follow the spirit of the rules.

If you think driving backwards and wrecking is acceptable (bearing in mind neither of your friends was banned only penalised as a warning), then please feel free to stay off the servers that have these rules that you've agreed too, because those are the rules I race by, and I expect everyone I race against on the CTRA to be following the same set.

If you dont want to race those rules there are plenty of other servers.

A wrecker becomes a wrecker only once they start wrecking (or attempting to wreck). Until that happens they are a racer.

The penalty that was given was for a very poor overtake against someone who had not wrecked anyone (at that point), which a silver licenced driver should not be doing. EVEN though the driver he trashed was a midrace joiner. It was a breach of our rules and it was behaviour that fell short of the standard we set.

If your friend doesn't want to race on CTRA any more because he's not allowed to wreck midrace joiners, then oh well. Tell him I said bye.

Quote from mackosajt :

The penalty I think is too big.
And I ask, who reported him?

I reported him.

Post that replay then...

Quote from JO53PHS :

Your friend should have reported the wrecker, instead of just wrecking him in return

He didn't wreck him in return. The guy who got permanently banned started wrecking after being rammed by the guy who got the caution.

Quote from Töki (HUN) :

Post that replay then...

Same replay.

Quote from SamH :

A wrecker becomes a wrecker only once they start wrecking (or attempting to wreck). Until that happens they are a racer.

The penalty that was given was for a very poor overtake against someone who had not wrecked anyone (at that point), which a silver licenced driver should not be doing. EVEN though the driver he trashed was a midrace joiner. It was a breach of our rules and it was behaviour that fell short of the standard we set.

If your friend doesn't want to race on CTRA any more because he's not allowed to wreck midrace joiners, then oh well. Tell him I said bye.

like i said, ctra admin are 100% right.

(watched the replay)
the first action wasnt that nice of your "Friend"
btw , may be nexttime you can give your "Friend"a name its more easy to watch the replay

say something... how can he pass him?
Rules... say something about blue flags.
So He abit pushed jarmils bumper, but then jarmil pushed he to the grass, and after some corners, jarmil spined out my friend.

U wont be so angry about that?

And in next lap, jarmil stay on the track, in front of the racers...

He dont wrecked anyone. Or yes? U see, he wrecked jarmil?

Quote from SamH :

I reported him.

Thank U....

why?

and for hotmail:
I give the report ID. U see?

Quote from SamH :

He didn't wreck him in return. The guy who got permanently banned started wrecking after being rammed by the guy who got the caution.


Same replay.

so, what we talk about? He wrecks or not?

He just want to pass him with blue flag rules... He dont give him way, and get a bit push, but what happend after that?

sorry, but i see, that someone dont see the forest from a tree.

For a moment separate out two incidents.

Your friend received a penalty for driving into the side of jarmil. He shouldn't have done it, it was substandard driving and the matter was dealt with. He appealed, his appeal was rejected and his penalty remained. End of the matter. http://www.raceauthority.com/r ... lookup.asp?ReportID=19964

The guy you reported, who after being rammed by your friend, decided to wreck your friend. He received a permanent ban and will no longer be able to race on CTRA servers. http://www.raceauthority.com/r ... lookup.asp?ReportID=19958

Which forest am I not seeing?

For everyone who reads this.

I always talk with my friend live on ventrilo. He now says, that 500 point is for a "push" is a huge penalty.

He dont wrecked jarmil. why he got this? This means, his 1/4 of the races has gone away...
Cause jarmil dont keep the rules about midrace join, and blue flag?

This is the problem.

Main problem is the 500 point.