Quote from zeugnimod :

And it has something to do with that, because this is only possible in demo. In S2, you can always see the LFSW-names, which dont change. And IMO, the monkey rate in demo IS much higher than in S2.

True, but I've experienced this once in S2 on AS Nat. This guy changes his nick to the same as one other guy on the server and starts wrecking.

A wonder that he wasn't kicked.

... Your racing on a demo server even tho you have an S2 licance? They have the warning, you can find stupid drivers, and just plain stupid people on the demo servers. It's not like some one could take your S2 user name and get you banned from an S2 server.

My start was not rubbish at all... as I stated before I like LFS, I like the community and generally I have no problems at all with idiots spoiling the fun. I had a question and I had some answers: zeugnimod's answer is satisfactory for my needs. Thinking about that all again, it was a case of childish social engineering applied to Live for Speed. Due to an obscure message and to my lack of knowledge of some features of LFS (e.g. driver swapping in Demo Servers) I was unable to understand it. Becky Rose said she did her best. I appreciate her answer and her effort (no, I'm not trying to pull a girl racer). In the same way, I appreciate all of the answers because they helped me to have a full understanding of what was going on. So thanks to everyone, because I would have liked to have an answer and I had it very quickly.

After reading some of the above, this is not an admin hack or anything like that.

On the Demo Servers, drivers can change there name to what ever they feel like at the time, hense being yours. Now when S1 demo and S2 demo was out we ( me included ) had this problem, especially with demo servers as the CTRL+SHIFT doesn't work on Demo Servers.

I am afriad, its one of those idiotic things you get on Demo servers

But it is no server hack, admin flaw or anything like that

Quote from Fordman :

After reading some of the above, this is not an admin hack or anything like that.

On the Demo Servers, drivers can change there name to what ever they feel like at the time, hense being yours. Now when S1 demo and S2 demo was out we ( me included ) had this problem, especially with demo servers as the CTRL+SHIFT doesn't work on Demo Servers.

I am afriad, its one of those idiotic things you get on Demo servers

But it is no server hack, admin flaw or anything like that

yeo, one of my friends called himself "CSimpok" and made me beleive id beaten the wr holder!

Just to explain the different messages:

Bill renamed to Ted = Player changed the nick in his current player profile from Bill to Ted

Ted took over from Bill = Player switched between two player profiles

Wreckers usually just make a new player profile with your nick, so they can quickly cycle through them, and that's what happened to you. Since I enjoy the XFG/BLGP combo, I'm racing on demo servers most of the time and have seen people do this a lot. As much as I love this game, allowing different players to have the same nick is simply retarded.

Quote from Albieg :

it appeared a message saying "AdminShadow took over from Albieg", and Albieg (it's supposed to be me, I'd say :shrug

Doesn't sound like a simple name change to me. Were you in the pits when AdminShadow 'took over' from you?

Quote from SamH :

He's a loser from the iDi monger clan and has had more IPs than I've had baked beans. Leave Demo behind and you'll never have to deal with him again

Ban the whole subnet. I know its harsh, and its a pain, since you have to manually enter all the IP's, but its better than nothing.

Personally, I'm still in favour of a global ban list network.

Quote from Gentlefoot :

Doesn't sound like a simple name change to me. Were you in the pits when AdminShadow 'took over' from you?

i think it's nothing like that. he just changed his profile while being online. iirc the 'took over'-message will appear then too.

edit: oh, bal00 already said that.

I agree, this is not an admin hack at all, but a Demo Server shouldn't allow two players with the same nickname. If it really is this way (and not a slightly different name as zeugnimod suggested) this problem should be addressed to prevent at least a form of abuse that spoils the fun from the Demo. I liked LFS so I bought it even before entering some Demo racing, but I wonder if I would have ever bought it if something like that happened in my first online races. I always believed a demo is made to show the product, not to make potential customers stay away from it. There's no real need for multiple profiles in a demo. The answer could be simple as that. That wouldn't help prevent all kind of childish behaviour in demo servers, but at least would give less weapons to abusers.

Mate. Start using the S2 servers. We where all beginners once and we all generally recognise a good noob and a pain in the arse Noob, so come up to the Valhalla of S2 and start racing proper like . . .

When is Victor gonna post?

When he has a useful and informative comment that adds to this discussion thread in a positive manner. Just like your post.

Quote from Albieg :

I agree, this is not an admin hack at all, but a Demo Server shouldn't allow two players with the same nickname. If it really is this way (and not a slightly different name as zeugnimod suggested) this problem should be addressed to prevent at least a form of abuse that spoils the fun from the Demo...

Im 100% sure, that its not possible to have 2 players with the exact same nick on one server, on S2 AND demo. You can try it yourself; if you want to change your nick to the nick of someone already on the server and use the exact same letters and symbols, it says "driver already on server" or sth like that.

You have to look really close at the nicks, there are always little differences. Only the big "I" and small "l" look exactly the same on the screen and this is exploited by demo wreckers.

I tried that too a few minutes ago. Names have to differ.