Hi CTRA Admins,

we from Lightning Racing thought much about he new GP Points System and we think that the Bump n Jump drivers have big advantages to "win" the overall monthly statistic.
The races there on Bump n Jump are only a few minutes depending on track, but a CTRA or SS race is about 10-20 minutes. You get less points if you race on CTRA or SS servers.

-I think there are two solutions atm:
The Bum n Jumper should get less points depending on race lenght on the other servers.

ee: Race 3: race lenght aprox. 10 minutes, BnJ race lenght aprox 5 mins = half points for BnJ!

-Invert the first solution.


Then there is another thing which is a bit unfair:
Racers can do races alone and get full GP points (especially at night)
Peter Link from my team had a great idea to solve this problem:
Full points only for 8 racers or above (actual point division)!

here a list of winner points should be given depending on race starters
1 drivers = 1 pt
2 drivers = 2 pt
3 drivers = 3pt
4 drivers = 4pt
5 drivers = 5 pt
6 drivers = 6pt
7 drivers = 8 pt
8 drivers = 10 pt

The GP points system is a flat number at the moment, simply based on finishing position. I've been thinking of ways to make these points more meaningful and I do like this structure you've proposed very much.

Quote from Trekkerfahrer :

Racers can do races alone and get full GP points (especially at night)

Well night in a place isn't full day in another? I don't think drivers should be penalized because of their country of origin or availability of time. And I am under the impression you won't get the full points if you are alone.

Also, in less crowded servers like Race2 or UF-BR gathering 8 racers may be a bit of a problem.

Just my 2 cents.

The principle problem at the moment is that the monthly top 20 is based on GPPoints rather than on licence points. If it were based on Point Rank, as other performance tables on CTRA are, then the results would carry far more balance and meaning. I think I should make this change a priority.

here's my two cents.
seems to me that u have a greater chance of NOT finishing a b-n-j race, especially when there are many in attendance, thereby increasing your chance of recieving less or no points.
yes the races are shorter, but unfair distribrution may be the improper definition.
how about we just have to work a little harder to earn what we get?
change the grid position lineup to put the higher ups in the back at the start maybe?
that's how we race at our local track, and it makes for better racing.
also seems to me that the monthly top 20 is more based on hours raced, not just number of races.
the top four in oct. were AWAYS on, trust me, i was there. lol

and oh yeah, how about the track cycling in b-n-j?
can you reactivate the unused tracks?
thanks

It's important to remember that we've traditionally referred to all CTRA race stats as *participation statistics* because CTRA revolves around actual participation at least as much as anything else.

The Point Rank figure is calculated on combining CTRA, Single Seater and Bump and Jump numbers, with Bump and Jump being 1/3 value in relation to the other two. We decided this long ago and it's consistently held merit.

This is a point-ranked version of the monthly stats page. Unless anyone spots a bug, I'll make this one live: http://www.raceauthority.com/championships/_ThisMonth.asp

On the subject of layouts, I know I promised to resolve this and I apologse for not doing. I haven't been able to get the time. As Chris Raemisch pointed out in another thread, at the moment there are really only two active CTRA admins at the moment and we're struggling a little to cover all bases.

Many of the layouts that we did run have some issues at the moment, and I'm very wary of just re-enabling them without having the time to test them thoroughly. If I don't find the time in the next few days I will just re-enable them and watch out for reports and/or complaints - live testing if you will.

Quote from Trekkerfahrer :

here a list of winner points should be given depending on race starters
1 drivers = 1 pt
2 drivers = 2 pt
3 drivers = 3pt
4 drivers = 4pt
5 drivers = 5 pt
6 drivers = 6pt
7 drivers = 8 pt
8 drivers = 10 pt

Now implemented

Quote from SamH :

Now implemented

thanks dude, now there are two bottles of beer in my fridge for you

Yay! Beer's good! I'll bring the peanuts! (since it's all I get paid! )

Quote from SamH :

Yay! Beer's good!

Well if you'd seen me at lunch time today I'm not sure you'd be saying beer is good. I had the hangover from hell and have tried to sleep most of today. Well now I'm wide awake, ill, want to die and still can't face looking at any food.

At least I wasn't too bad on any forums......I was crapping myself when I logged on earlier

Hello, nice and fast job done, Sam. But I am confused now

What was the reason to change GP points earning when we follow

licence points now for the ranking ? For drivers with high overall rankings it

is a lot harder to do many licence points since you get less and less the

higher you are. That is the advantage of GP points when they will be

used in the new way, ranking will follow race results, which sounds fair

to me. Just my thoughts about it, greets P V L

Results ordering is now switchable between GP Points and Point Rank, default by GP Points

Happy you understand the idea behind

Again you did it fast and furious

Btw, thanks for the CTRA system and servers running

we will never ALL be happy. lol
thanks fer the response, no need to apologize, we know yer busy......

Quote from z-ro 8 :

we will never ALL be happy....

So true...

Maybe this is the wrong thread to post in, but:

Anyone recall this thread..?

I´ve checked the GP Points table and there´re some drivers listed without a proper licencename.
Simply because it´s another system-generated CTRA-statistic it should have the same rules as any other CTRA-ranking-table.
Which means in short terms: No name - no ranking...

What do you think..?

It's still up in the air for me. I don't want to include people without real first and last names but since the first and last names are dynamic, if we excluded unnamed drivers, and someone later added their real first and last names now, it would directly affect the results from last month.

I could change the X-System to flag whether a racer's result was made with real first and last names or not. For each result, while they're without real first and last names, their result is not included in the monthly stats. As soon as first and last are set (and for as long as they're set), results count in the monthly results. Alternatively I could just diminish the monthly stats on the website for unnamed drivers to something close to "unknown". Their position would be maintained but their clickable stats would be unavailable. Lighter on the database (the results table is growing in a big way), and net result would be essentially the same.

Two possibilities from here. Thoughts?

Quote from SamH :

...As soon as first and last edit (names) are set (and for as long as they're set), results count in the monthly results.

It would be perfectly fine with that...