it would be better if we also could upload .dds skins to lfsworld

Its is actualy a nice idea would make lfs world exceptionaly smaller to

Quote from G!NhO :

it would be better if we also could upload .dds skins to lfsworld

So you can use the Alphachannel?

And no , i dont wanna enter to a server and donwload a 40mb of crap

So -1

So that people could have an invisible car? No thanks.

Eh? You can upload DDS files to LFS World at the moment. They convert to JPG automatically Works fine for me at least, upload a random skin (that you made, so that it isn't already online...) from skins_dds and it shows as JPG on LFS World

@ Inouva: 40MB of crap? It'd be no different to JPG

Quote from dougie-lampkin :

Eh? You can upload DDS files to LFS World at the moment. They convert to JPG automatically Works fine for me at least, upload a random skin (that you made, so that it isn't already online...) from skins_dds and it shows as JPG on LFS World

@ Inouva: 40MB of crap? It'd be no different to JPG

alpha channel makes it huge

I don't see why not. There could be an option to not download .DDS skins. Depends how long it'd take to do imo.

i tried to upload .dds skins and this is what i got


Notification

I'm sorry. For some reason I cannot handle your file. Please check if it conforms to the skin-file requirements.

Well, you can't upload .dds skins because .dds is a texture, where as .jpg is an image. You cannot update textures in any without restarting it. Install new textures on LFS while it's running, and unless it reloads it (Why it would, I have no idea), it wouldn't work until you restarted it.

But it's a good suggestion, although it won't happen unfortunatly.

Maybe the devs can improvise this and create sunroofs for cars, so that everyone could have them. Although nowhere near the top of the list of prioritys, it would be a nice finishing touch.

Quote from pipa :

So that people could have an invisible car? No thanks.

no u could see the interior all around it and u could allways see the rims and tires :S

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

... Install new textures on LFS while it's running, and unless it reloads it (Why it would, I have no idea), it wouldn't work until you restarted it....

i dont think so... i often get some skins out of my skins_x file and put them into my skins_dds folder. and i can use them online emidietly

Skins you can, but not textures such as new dashboards. Maybe I've mis-understood. o_O.

I thought those .dds skins are like.. textures rather than skins.

Setups and skins load, but not textures iirc.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Skins you can, but not textures such as new dashboards. Maybe I've mis-understood. o_O.

I thought those .dds skins are like.. textures rather than skins.

Setups and skins load, but not textures iirc.

Textures and skins are both images.

This is a bad idea - .dds files are much larger in filesize than jpg skins, and jpg skins already cause a studder when downloading for many people as it is. You don't need an alpha channel on skins in LFS.

Quote from anbiddulph :

alpha channel makes it huge

It's not the alpha channel that makes it huge, it's the quality vs. a JPEG. A DDS alpha channel increases the file by a mere 4 bytes/pixel. Each pixel, as a whole, is represented with 32 bytes (including alpha channel). So, even without an alpha channel, the reduction is only 12.5% (presuming you could actually remove the alpha channel data, entirely, from a DDS).

The problem here is that DDS textures use differing compression (DXT1-5) to JPEGs (various techniques, incl. 2D DCT, Huffman and Entropy coding) - resulting in vastly different file sizes.

Quote from JamesF1 :

The problem here is that DDS textures use loss-less compression (DXT1-5 - exhibiting larger file sizes)

DXT are not lossless at all - they can cause quite a difference actually in non-optimal conditions.

Quote from Kegetys :

DXT are not lossless at all - they can cause quite a difference actually in non-optimal conditions.

Meh, my bad, fixed. :up: Next time I'll actually be sure to double-check my 'knowledge' before posting!