perfect answer for the lower classes m8, just 3 fixed gearbox options and just 1 diff ratio for the model, pick a fixed mid range diff value and let the driver choose between 3 unadjustable gearbos ratio sets. far closer to real life
I think that the spider gear of the differential should be adjustable from 6-20 teeth, and the ring gear should be adjustable from 20-60 teeth. That would give a range of 1:1 through 10:1 and a total of 560 'steps' of the differential ratio. It could still be adjusted on one slider, it would just snap to those values.
Road cars - totally forced setup save for tyre related stuff.
Racing cars - unsure.
FOX - Three sets of ratios (or three final drive options).
FO8 - A bit less adjustability than now
BF1 - Kept the same
FBM and MRT - Real life settings?
I hope you mean ONLY for the gearbox settings, not for all of the other options.
As there are many aftermarket upgrades for each car that has racing capacities, I think just the gearbox/final drive should be limited. However, the suspension, differential, wheel adjustment should stay the way it is, as it is possible to do it in real life.
Just for instance, limitind the options in the clutch pack LSD for the XRG/XFG made the cars less performant as what they should be.
Having a 2-Way (equal coast/power) differential in a FWD is just plain useless while a Detroit locker (0 coast while locked on power). And for the XRG, since the best way to be fast is to carry as much speed in entries, a 2-Way creates more resistance when turning in, while a 1.5way (coast = half of power value) would be the fastest way.
So overlimiting settings would turn the game into a non-realistic choice of options. I reckon that limitations are mandatory, but only to things that are limited IRL (such as gearbox for the road cars).
Out of interest I thought I would add that in a series like the Aussie V8s they only have a few final drive ratio's to select from. Then they can play with gears after that. So even in full spec race cars the choices are still limited
Well, we're talking about all the gears, including the crownwheel and pinion. But there only so many teeth of sufficient size to resist the engine torque that you can fit in a diff casing. A custom one can NOT be of ANY ratio you want.
This, for example, is a list of gear ratios available for Hewland Mk5 gearboxes.
MK5-16:35-2ND RATIO 2.188
MK5-16:34-STD MK5-16:34-2ND RATIO 2.125
MK5-13:27-STD MK5-13:27-2ND RATIO 2.077
MK5-15:30-STD MK5-15:30-2ND RATIO 2.000
MK5-14:27-STD MK5-14:27-2ND RATIO 1.929
MK5-18:34-STD MK5-18:34-2ND OBSOLETE RATIO USE 14:26 1.889
MK5-14:26-STD MK5-14:26-2ND RATIO 1.857
MK5-18:33-STD MK5-18:33-2ND OBSOLETE RATIO 1.833
MK5-15:27-STD MK5-15:27-2ND RATIO 1.800
MK5-18:32-STD MK5-18:32-2ND OBSOLETE RATIO USE 17:30 1.778
MK5-17:30-STD MK5-17:30-2ND RATIO 1.765
MK5-15:26-STD MK5-15:26-2ND RATIO 1.733
MK5-17:29-STD MK5-17:29-2ND RATIO 1.706
MK5-15:25-STD MK5-15:25-2ND RATIO 1.667
MK5-16:26-STD MK5-16:26-2ND RATIO 1.625
MK5-17:27-STD MK5-17:27-2ND RATIO 1.588
MK5-16:25-STD MK5-16:25-2ND RATIO 1.563
MK5-17:26-STD MK5-17:26-2ND RATIO 1.529
MK5-16:24-STD MK5-16:24-2ND RATIO 1.500
MK5-17:25-STD RATIO 1.471
MK5-16:23-STD RATIO 1.438
MK5-19:27-STD RATIO 1.421
MK5-18:25-STD RATIO 1.389
MK5-19:26-STD MK5-19:26-2ND RATIO 1.368
MK5-18:24-STD RATIO 1.333
MK5-19:25-STD RATIO 1.316
MK5-20:26-STD MK5-20:26-2ND RATIO 1.300
MK5-21:27-STD RATIO 1.286
MK5-22:28-STD RATIO 1.273
MK5-19:24-STD RATIO 1.263
MK5-21:26-STD RATIO 1.238
MK5-18:22-STD RATIO 1.222
MK5-19:23-STD RATIO 1.211
MK5-21:25-STD RATIO 1.190
MK5-23:27-STD RATIO 1.174
MK5-24:28-STD RATIO 1.167
MK5-19:22-STD RATIO 1.158
MK5-21:24-STD RATIO 1.143
MK5-22:25-STD RATIO 1.136
MK5-24:27-STD RATIO 1.125
MK5-19:21-STD RATIO 1.105
MK5-24:26-STD RATIO 1.083
MK5-18:19-STD RATIO 1.056
MK5-25:26-STD RATIO 1.040
MK5-24:24-STD RATIO 1.000
MK5-26:25-STD RATIO 0.962
MK5-26:24-STD RATIO 0.923
MK5-27:24-STD RATIO 0.889
Layshaft Options
Part Number
Standard gears Part Number
2nd gears (hubbed) Description Ratio
MK5-16:35-2ND RATIO 2.188
MK5-16:34-STD MK5-16:34-2ND RATIO 2.125
MK5-13:27-STD MK5-13:27-2ND RATIO 2.077
MK5-15:30-STD MK5-15:30-2ND RATIO 2.000
MK5-14:27-STD MK5-14:27-2ND RATIO 1.929
MK5-18:34-STD MK5-18:34-2ND OBSOLETE RATIO USE 14:26 1.889
MK5-14:26-STD MK5-14:26-2ND RATIO 1.857
MK5-18:33-STD MK5-18:33-2ND OBSOLETE RATIO 1.833
MK5-15:27-STD MK5-15:27-2ND RATIO 1.800
MK5-18:32-STD MK5-18:32-2ND OBSOLETE RATIO USE 17:30 1.778
MK5-17:30-STD MK5-17:30-2ND RATIO 1.765
MK5-15:26-STD MK5-15:26-2ND RATIO 1.733
MK5-17:29-STD MK5-17:29-2ND RATIO 1.706
MK5-15:25-STD MK5-15:25-2ND RATIO 1.667
MK5-16:26-STD MK5-16:26-2ND RATIO 1.625
MK5-17:27-STD MK5-17:27-2ND RATIO 1.588
MK5-16:25-STD MK5-16:25-2ND RATIO 1.563
MK5-17:26-STD MK5-17:26-2ND RATIO 1.529
MK5-16:24-STD MK5-16:24-2ND RATIO 1.500
MK5-17:25-STD RATIO 1.471
MK5-16:23-STD RATIO 1.438
MK5-19:27-STD RATIO 1.421
MK5-18:25-STD RATIO 1.389
MK5-19:26-STD MK5-19:26-2ND RATIO 1.368
MK5-18:24-STD RATIO 1.333
MK5-19:25-STD RATIO 1.316
MK5-20:26-STD MK5-20:26-2ND RATIO 1.300
MK5-21:27-STD RATIO 1.286
MK5-22:28-STD RATIO 1.273
MK5-19:24-STD RATIO 1.263
MK5-21:26-STD RATIO 1.238
MK5-18:22-STD RATIO 1.222
MK5-19:23-STD RATIO 1.211
MK5-21:25-STD RATIO 1.190
MK5-23:27-STD RATIO 1.174
MK5-24:28-STD RATIO 1.167
MK5-19:22-STD RATIO 1.158
MK5-21:24-STD RATIO 1.143
MK5-22:25-STD RATIO 1.136
MK5-24:27-STD RATIO 1.125
MK5-19:21-STD RATIO 1.105
MK5-24:26-STD RATIO 1.083
MK5-18:19-STD RATIO 1.056
MK5-25:26-STD RATIO 1.040
MK5-24:24-STD RATIO 1.000
MK5-26:25-STD RATIO 0.962
MK5-26:24-STD RATIO 0.923
MK5-27:24-STD RATIO 0.889
Mk9 Gearbox
Part Number Description Ratio
MK5-13:38-INT LAYSHAFT & INT 1ST 2.923
MK5-12:33-INT LAYSHAFT & INT 1ST 2.750
MK5-12:31-INT LAYSHAFT & INT 1ST 2.583
MK5-12:29-INT LAYSHAFT & INT 1ST 2.417
NST Gearbox
and Dallara F3 Gearbox from 1994
Part Number Description Ratio
F3A-13:38-INT LAYSHAFT & INT 1ST 2.923
F3A-12:33-INT LAYSHAFT & INT 1ST 2.750
F3A-12:31-INT LAYSHAFT & INT 1ST 2.583
F3A-12:29-INT LAYSHAFT & INT 1ST 2.417
F3A-13:30-INT LAYSHAFT & INT 1ST 2.308
F3A-14:31-INT LAYSHAFT & INT 1ST 2.214
You said "why? u can get whatever u want irl", and you can't. See how the teeth on any given gear range between 27 and 13 for standard ratios and 38 to 12 for differential gears. That's not "whatever u want", that's a big restriction.
well i said that when i thought they r talkin about diffs,i didnt read from first post,and its a 2 year old thread so i guess we have updates on this already,maybe not,idk
Nope it's the same. And it's the same even if we're talking about diffs (I mentioned crownwheel and pinions, which I'm sure you know define the differential ratio). You can't have ~infinite (0.00x) adjustment with toothed gears.
Wow. You're a genius Drift. Even though I said "this is a list of...", and therefore pretty much gave away the fact it's a copy paste, combined with the poor column problem...
You must be REALLY clever to work out it was a copy-paste.
Ok, so I wake up and find alot of shit that I cannot explicitly remember typing, spattered all over this forum.
Good one. Yet you're still here complaining? Obviously I'm not the most liked around here, but then do I care? Ignore list is there for a reason, to block people you don't want to read/don't like.
I have my moments but often actually take part in valid discussion, and yet some people who insist on having a problem with me (like you) manage to miss the 70% of posts that are actually decent. I'd call that selective vision.
But yeah, anyway. Tristan, I knew you copy/pasted it. Just that you think I didn't know. I may be stupid, but I'm not that stupid.
